Leonard Susskind : Classical Mechanics

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The discussion centers on Leonard Susskind's lecture regarding the derivative of the first derivative squared in classical mechanics. A participant questions Susskind's claim that the derivative is equal to 2x'', arguing that the chain rule is not applied correctly. The conversation highlights the importance of the Euler-Lagrange equations, specifically the expression \(\frac{d}{dt}\Big(\frac{\partial\mathcal{L}}{\partial\dot{x}}\Big)=\frac{\partial\mathcal{L}}{\partial x}\), emphasizing that the time derivative pertains to the derivative of the Lagrangian with respect to coordinate velocity, not the Lagrangian itself.

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isn't the derivative of the first derivative squared:
d/dt (x')^2 = 2x'x''? why does susskind claim it is 2x'', in his classical lecture 3?
 
he assumes X(t) so 'x' is a function of time not only of x , he is using the chain rule
 
Ithink he is not using the chain rule properly. if x is a function of time only, d/dt (dx/dt)^2 = 2dx/dt * d^2x/dt^2
 
lolgarithms said:
Ithink he is not using the chain rule properly. if x is a function of time only, d/dt (dx/dt)^2 = 2dx/dt * d^2x/dt^2

You've already asked this question, and had it answered in another thread. I don't know where abouts in the video you've seen this, but I'm guessing it has to do with the Euler-Lagrange equations:

<br /> \frac{d}{dt}\Big(\frac{\partial\mathcal{L}}{\partial\dot{x}}\Big)=\frac{\partial\mathcal{L}}{\partial x}

So, the LHS is not taking the time derivative of the Lagrangian, but is instead the time derivative of the derivative of the Lagrangian with respect to the coordinate velocity. It is important to treat the coordinate velocity as a variable; that is \mathcal{L}\equiv\mathcal{L}(x, \dot{x}).

If this doesn't clear things up, let me know the exact time in the video that you're confused with, and I'll try and look at it.
 
cristo said:
You've already asked this question, and had it answered in another thread.

I had the thread deleted because i decided I wanted to post it here.
 

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