What is the difference between degree and level of order?

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Bohm's book discusses the concepts of "level of order" and "degree of order," highlighting their interrelationship. The degree of order refers to the complexity and interconnectedness of systems, while the level of order pertains to the organization and functionality within those systems. When multiple subsystems are connected to form a larger system, a new global order emerges, representing a higher degree of order. However, if the level of order remains low, the system may still be chaotic and ineffective. To achieve functionality, both the degree and level of order must be elevated. This analogy extends to the global context, where despite a higher degree of order among nations and religions, the low level of order leads to persistent disarray. The discussion suggests that achieving a harmonious global system requires both a high degree and level of order, as emphasized in Bohm's work.
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in bohm's book he speaks about both but what is the meaning of each?

level of order
degree of order

how are they relate to each other?


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if i take 10 sub systems and connects them to one system then I've created a new global order which is an order of a higher degree.

but, the level of order is still low, there is a mess , the system does not work.
i need to rise the level of order in the system so it will work.

when the degree gets higher i must take up the level as well so the system will work.
think about the world , the global world is a higher degree of order but the world still lives in low level of order (countries, religions) only when there will one country, one religion, the world will work fine.

this is how bohm's book sees it, i think...


what do you think?
 
it is on pages 121-122


science order and creativity

by:
david bohm and f. david peat
 
Sounds like this topic is more suited for philosophy, not physics. I'll move it.
 
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