Can infinite sets differ finitely?

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The discussion revolves around whether two infinite sets can differ by a finite number of elements. Examples provided include sets A = ℕ and B = ℕ \ {1}, which differ by one element, and A = {0, 1, 2, ...} and B = {1, 2, 3, ...}, differing by 0. The concept of symmetric difference is introduced, questioning if it can be nonempty for infinite sets. Clarification is given on the notation used for set subtraction, with emphasis on the importance of understanding set containment. The conversation highlights the complexities and potential confusions in discussing infinite sets and their differences.
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Can two infinite sets differ by a finite number of elements?
 
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Take for example A = \mathbb{N} and B = \mathbb{N} \setminus \left\{ 1 \right\}. Then A and B are both infinite sets, and they share all elements except for 1. Or is this not what you mean by "differ"?
 
Loren Booda said:
Can two infinite sets differ by a finite number of elements?

I take your question as:

"Given two infinite sets A and B, is the symmetric difference (A\cup B)\setminus(A\cap B) ever nonempty?"

in which case the above post gives an example of when this can occur.
 
Please forgive my ignorance, but what does \ mean in this context?
 
Let' say A = {0, 1, 2, ...} and B = {1, 2, 3, ...}. A and B are both infinite, but A and B "differ" by one element. Namely 0.
 
Loren Booda said:
Please forgive my ignorance, but what does \ mean in this context?

Set subtraction (thus the LaTeX command \setminus). {1, 2, 3} \ {2} = {1, 3}.
 
CRGreathouse said:
I take your question as:

"Given two infinite sets A and B, is the symmetric difference (A\cup B)\setminus(A\cap B) ever nonempty?"

in which case the above post gives an example of when this can occur.

Loren Booda said:
Please forgive my ignorance, but what does \ mean in this context?
It's the "set difference". A\B is "All values that are in A but not in B". Think "A take away any members of A intersect B".
 
Thanks, all.
 
There isn't an inverse function to \, is there?
 
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Yes there is, the union. A \ B U B = A.
 
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Not quite; only if B is contained in A.
 
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secretman said:
Not quite; only if B is contained in A.

Only if B is a subset of A.

Using "is contained in" to mean "is a subset of" can cause an awful lot of confusion.
 
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