Master+Doctoral at the same Uni save my time?

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The discussion revolves around the considerations of applying for a Master's program followed by a Doctoral program at a Canadian university as an international student. Key points include the likelihood of acceptance, where some schools allow direct admission to either Master's or Ph.D. programs, but exceptional candidates are typically needed for direct Ph.D. admission. It is noted that completing a Master's at the same university may facilitate a smoother transition to a Ph.D., potentially reducing completion time to 4-5 years if the research is continuous. Financial support options such as Research Assistantships (RA) and Teaching Assistantships (TA) are generally available for graduate students, with Ph.D. students often receiving more funding. Applicants can usually apply for both programs simultaneously, but it's advised to verify specific school policies regarding application processes and fees. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the importance of checking individual university requirements and policies.
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As a result from my previous post:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=306199

I am wondering that if instead of applying into the Doctoral Program, I choose to repeat another Master Degree in one of the Canadian University and continue on the Doctoral Program at the same University. As an international student, here's the questions:

1. Will I be more likely to be accepted for admisssion? and during admission do I have a choice of specifying that I would like to do a Master Continuing on Doctoral?

2. Will I save sometimes in doing Master/Doctoral at the same University(completion in 4-5 years)?

3. will I be eligible for the RA/TAship or at least some partial scholarship to help with the tuition fee during my Doctoral Program(after completing Master there)?

4. During application am I allowed to apply for both program (Master/Doctoral) to improve my chance? or I have to apply twice and pay admission fee twice as well?

Thank you guys
 
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As usual, you have to check with the specific schools that you're interested in as I'm sure the policies vary on this kind of thing. In all the programs that I'm familiar with, if you're applying straight from undergrad, you are automatically placed in a master's program. Then, based on your performance in the first year and the recommendation of your supervisory committee, you may have the option of transferring directly into a Ph.D. program. Otherwise you complete the master's degree and then apply directly for a Ph.D. program.

1. I believe some schools will allow you to apply directly to either the M.Sc. or Ph.D. programs, but you have to be an exceptional candidate to be offered direct admission into the Ph.D. program. Again, check with the particular programs you're interested in.

2. It's difficult to say. If your Ph.D. becomes an extension of your M.Sc. work, you don't have as much of a learning curve to climb as if you start a different project and therefore you have the potential to finish sooner. The same would apply regardless of whether or not you go to a different school.

3. In Canada, most graduate students are financially supported in one way or another. Ph.D. students may get slightly more money.

4. I don't think it makes a difference - but again check with the specific school. I believe in general applicants seeking direct admission to a Ph.D. program are automatically considered for a master's program.
 
Thank you Choppy, your suggestion is very helpful. It really helps confirming my understanding of the academic system over there. I'm sure that I don't have to post another topic related to admission now. However, the next time I post, might be relating to the research area. Thank you.

Cheers :smile:
 
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