Godwin Kessy
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Can anyone please help me on the term pressure energy what does it really mean and If possible the calculations involved with it!
The discussion centers around the concept of pressure energy in fluid mechanics, exploring its definition, calculations, and its relation to Bernoulli's theorem. Participants engage with both theoretical and practical aspects of pressure energy, including its implications in various scenarios.
Participants express differing views on the validity of equating pressure energy to mgh, with some asserting it is true under specific conditions while others contest its general applicability. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise definitions and implications of pressure energy in various contexts.
Participants note that the definitions of pressure and volume can vary based on the specific scenario being analyzed, and there are unresolved mathematical steps in the derivation of Bernoulli's theorem that may affect interpretations.
DaleSpam said:Pressure times volume is energy. So if that product changes then the energy has changed.
thrillhouse86 said:Strictly speaking isn't change in volume times a constant pressure energy ?
so if you had a situation where your volume stayed constant but your volume changed you would have a change in enthalpy ? i.e
dU = TdS - PdV
dH = TdS + VdP
It is any volume that you are interested in and the pressure within that volume. For instance, if you are interested in the work done by a piston as it expands then you would take the pressure inside the piston times the volume of the piston at the beginning of the power stroke and at the end of the power stroke. The difference is the work done by the piston during the expansion.Godwin Kessy said:But what is really that volume and the pressure.
May you please elaborated it
You should be shocked, it is not true in general. For instance, in outer space g=0, so mgh = 0, but pressure times volume is still energy and pistons and compressors don't run without energy input! Also, consider on earth, you can heat a gas inside a closed container, this will increase P and therefore increase PV without changing mgh.Godwin Kessy said:I was shocked when it was written that;
Pressure energy=mgh
DaleSpam said:You should be shocked, it is not true in general.
you didn't get what Dale meant by "general". There are many different types of pressure energy including several others in bernoulli's equation. Pressure due to gravity is only one type.Godwin Kessy said:Seriously it is true am telling you! May be you should look it over and help me out!
Its under the derivation of Bernouli's theorem!
Not quite, it's an inverse relationship. Bernoulli's equation multiplied by volume results in:Godwin Kessy said:Bernoulli ... Pressure energy=mgh