Can We Physically See an Atom?

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The discussion revolves around the question of whether we can physically see an atom, exploring the limitations of various microscopy techniques and the implications of observation in quantum mechanics. It includes theoretical considerations, experimental observations, and conceptual clarifications regarding the visibility and manipulation of atoms.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that while we can infer the presence of atoms through experiments, we cannot physically "see" them, even with advanced microscopy techniques.
  • Others argue that single atoms can be imaged using scanning tunneling electron microscopes (STM), suggesting that whether this constitutes "seeing" is subjective.
  • One participant notes that our perception of sight is fundamentally based on photon interactions, implying that STM images could be considered a form of sight.
  • Concerns are raised about the limitations of optical microscopes in resolving atomic sizes due to scattering effects, which can distort the perceived size of particles.
  • Another participant mentions that transmission electron microscopes (TEM) can provide images of atomic planes, indicating that certain techniques can achieve atomic resolution.
  • There is a question about the nature of observation at the atomic level, specifically whether we would see probability clouds or defined shapes, and how observation might affect quantum states.
  • A participant suggests that the size of an atom is smaller than the wavelength of visible light, which contributes to the inability to see atoms optically.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that traditional optical methods cannot resolve atoms due to their size and the effects of scattering. However, there is disagreement on the interpretation of what it means to "see" an atom, particularly regarding the capabilities of different microscopy techniques and the implications of quantum mechanics.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on definitions of "seeing," the unresolved nature of how observation affects quantum systems, and the varying capabilities of different microscopy techniques.

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We can't "see" an atom?

I understand we can conduct experiments from which we can "infer" or "sense" that an atom or a certain number of atoms are present but we still can't physically "see" one, even with the most powerful microscope... true?

Nevertheless, are we still able to manipulate atoms, in the sense that we can put three and only three atoms of a particular kind in a box (crudely speaking)?
 
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They have been able to "image" single atoms with the scanning tunneling electron microscope. These images are essentially averaged over short periods of time. Whether you call that "seeing" or not is up to you. If you are moved to be critical, recall that our natural seeing is more problematical, according to experimental psychologists, than we like to suppose.
 
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Agreement. We only "see" anything by bombarding it with photons and then measuring how those photons impact us and infering what they must have been up to before reaching us. If that's seeing, then I would say the STM constitute sight as well.
 
We could not see an atom with an optical microscope (i.e. gauge it's size), even if the magnification were sufficient due to scattering effects, the atom would appear larger than it actually is.

While this is obviously difficult experientally, a similar effect is seen when observing fluroesecent nanoparticles under a microscope. Even though they are only 200 nm in diameter (Measured with an SEM) they appear to be at least a couple of microns wide under a microscope.

It is the scattering cross section of a particle rather than its physical size that determines how photons scatter off it and thus how the particle would appear under a microscope.

Claude.
 
With electron microscopes (TEM), we can see images of certain crystal atomic planes separated by only about 10-15 nm. (100-150 A). This size corresponds to an axis of the crystal's unit cell.
 
Agreed, though I was referring to purely optical devices. With the aid of SEM, STM and NSOM technology, we can substantially improve our resolution.

Claude.
 
One more question: If we see the atom or maybe sub-atomic particles someday, would we see probability clouds or nice, rounded spheres? Or does the act of seeing cause wavefunction collapse ? Would quantum wierdness be apparent if we have the technology to see atoms and all..?
 
I believe, actually, and don't get me wrong, because I don't know if this has been said, that an atom is smaller than the minimal wavelength of visible light, which is violet. I'd say the scattering effect is comparable with a black pixel in a square of white being smoothed over to gray scales. That's why you cannot see one optically
 
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