Vector Potential: Reality or Tool?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the nature of vector potential in classical and quantum electrodynamics, exploring whether it has physical reality or serves merely as a mathematical tool. The scope includes theoretical implications and interpretations within both classical and quantum frameworks.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that vector potential is just a useful mathematical tool, asserting that only electric and magnetic fields have physical meaning.
  • Others contend that in quantum electrodynamics, vector potential has physical significance, citing the Aharonov-Bohm Effect as evidence that it can have measurable effects even in the absence of fields.
  • One participant suggests that while vector potential is physical in quantum mechanics, it is not directly observable, likening it to wave functions.
  • Another participant highlights that the circulation of vector potential relates to magnetic flux, indicating a connection to physical observables.
  • Some participants note that both vector potential and related quantities like electric and magnetic fields are not observable in themselves but serve as alternative methods for calculating physical observables.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the physical reality of vector potential, with some asserting it is merely a mathematical construct while others argue for its physical significance in quantum contexts. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the debate involves complex interpretations of physical reality versus mathematical representation, particularly in the context of observable versus non-observable quantities in quantum mechanics.

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Has vector potential in classical electrodynamics a physical reality or it's just a mathematical tool?
 
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It's just a (very useful) tool. Only the electric and magnetic fields have physical meaning. That's why you can make a Gauge transformation on the potentials (they change the potentials but not the fields) without altering the results.
 
But in quantum electrodynamics it is physical in the sense that it is now the primitive constituents of the electromagnetic field. This was proven with the Aharonov-Bohm Effect which showed that while there may not be any fields in a region, a non-zero vector potential (and scalar potential too since you need both to describe the fields) can have measurable effects. This is not true in classical electrodynamics but if you have heard of such things this is probably where it came from.
 
In QM, vector potential is physical, but not observable. In that sense, it is not unlike wave functions. In fact, in QED, it is essentially one of the wave functions.

Of course, the problem with non-observable quantities in QM is that you cannot tell if these are true physical quantities, or merely convenient mathematical representations for something else. So this doesn't mean that vector potential is "real". Merely that there is a real physical object that it represents.
 
Vector potential don't but circulation of vector potential

\oint_L\vec{A}\cdot d\vec{l}=\int_S\vec{B}\cdot d\vec{S}=\Phi_B

is magnetic flux.
 
E,B and A,phi are two alternate ways of calculating physical observables. Neither are observable in themselves.
 

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