Carnot's cycle and a-like cycles

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Thermodynamics, particularly Carnot's cycle, involves understanding isothermal and adiabatic processes in gas expansion. Isothermal expansion occurs when a gas is heated in a piston compartment, maintaining a constant temperature, but achieving this in reality is complex and not perfectly controllable. The discussion highlights that real engine processes differ significantly from idealized cycles, as the simplifications used in learning are abstractions to aid understanding. Adiabatic processes are characterized by insufficient time for heat exchange with the environment, leading to dominant behaviors other than heat transfer. Overall, grasping these concepts requires recognizing the limitations of ideal models in practical applications.
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Hello,

Lately I encountered thermodynamics. And all that world is very new to me, gas expansion etc etc.

I recently learned about Carnot's cycle. IT has 2 isotherms and 2 adiabatic processes.

Now, I understand what those processes in separation mean. Adiabatic processes don't exchange heat with the outside. I can coupe with that concept. But when you put all that together and pistons and all that stuff i come to confusion.

When you heat a gas inside the piston compartment, it expands isothermally. Now I understand what it means, temperature doesn't change. But why? How do you achieve this with gases? How do you control that variable, and after you expand it to some level, why does gas adiabatically continues to expand?

Can you explain this nature of gasses in these engines?

Thank you
 
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Bassalisk said:
Now, I understand what those processes in separation mean. Adiabatic processes don't exchange heat with the outside. I can coupe with that concept. But when you put all that together and pistons and all that stuff i come to confusion.

When you heat a gas inside the piston compartment, it expands isothermally. Now I understand what it means, temperature doesn't change. But why? How do you achieve this with gases? How do you control that variable, and after you expand it to some level, why does gas adiabatically continues to expand?

As you suspect, that variable cannot actually be controlled in reality, and the real processes occurring in engines have not much to do with the Carnot process or other idealized cycles. Go find a p/V diagram of a real combustion engine...

The cycles you learn are simplified abstractions. They are designed to be understandable and calculatable, and to graps the coarse idea behind the real processes. For example, if I remember correctly, the idea behind the adiabatic process was that the gas does not have enough time to equilibrate with the environment and thus no heat exchange occurs. Describing it in that way does not mean that really no heat is exchanged at all, it only means that other processes beside the heat exchange dominate the total behavior.
 
I think i got it. Thanks
 
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