Finding for interval of m in quadratic equation.

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The discussion focuses on finding the interval for 'm' in the expression (mx^2 + 3x - 4) / (-4x^2 + 3x + m) to take all real values. The participant equates the expression to 'y' and derives a quadratic equation in multiple variables. They identify that the denominator must not be zero for the expression to be valid, leading to the condition D ≥ 0 for the discriminant of the denominator. The conclusion drawn is that 'm' must lie within the interval [1, 7], excluding values that make the denominator zero. The confusion arises between ensuring real values of the expression and the conditions for the discriminant.
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Maths Quadratic Question

Homework Statement




Find the interval in which 'm' lies so that the expression
\frac{mx^2+3x-4}{-4x^2+3x+m}
can take all real values ,where x is real.




The Attempt at a Solution





i have equated this equation to y
y=\frac{mx^2+3x-4}{-4x^2+3x+m}

then

(-4y-m)x^2+(3y-3)x+(ym-4)=0


but then it becomes quadratic equation in many variables .


please give hints or steps to solve the problem.
 
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One value of m for which y cannot "take all real values" is -4. Do you see why? Think about that.
 
i only have the answer and not the solution

and the answer is:-
m \epsilon [1,7]


but
as denominator cannot be zero

-4x^2+3x+m=0
the value of m in above equation will not be included in the interval

i took its discriminant
D =3^2-4(-4m)=9+16m
then
D\ge0
9+16m\ge0
m\ge-9/16

but this is not the answer?
 
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Sumedh said:
i took its discriminant
D =3^2-4(-4m)=9+16m
then
D\ge0
Again, you're confusing the idea of "having real solutions" with "taking on real values." If you want to say that the denominator cannot be zero, you are saying that, no matter what real-number value you plug in for x, the denominator won't be zero. D ≥ 0 means that there exists one or two values of x that make the quadratic equal to zero. That's not what you want here.
 
1) To get real value of the expression, the denominator should not be zero.
Is this statement correct??


2) As you said---------
D ≥ 0 means that there exists one or two values of x that make the quadratic equal to zero.
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Should i use D\le0
if we use this we get m\le−9/16 (am i right till here?)

if i am right, then what should i do with m\le−9/16
as the final answer is
mϵ[1,7]
 
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