Autotransformer - power transferred by conduction/induction

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of power transfer in an autotransformer, specifically focusing on the distinction between power transferred by conduction and power transferred by induction. Participants explore the relationships between these forms of power transfer and the relevant equations that govern them.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether they can calculate power transferred by induction as the difference between output power and power transferred by conduction, or if they must use the formula S = E1I1 = E2I2.
  • Another participant suggests that the term "power transformed" refers specifically to power delivered by induction, leading to a potential confusion in the equations used.
  • A different participant proposes an equation for power transformed and discusses the implications of a turns ratio of K=1, suggesting that this results in zero power being transformed by induction.
  • Questions arise regarding the relationship between conduction and induction, specifically how they differ and when each equation applies.
  • One participant concludes that when K=1, all power in the load is delivered by conduction, implying that any power not due to induction must be from conduction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the definitions and relationships between power transferred by conduction and induction. There is no consensus on the correct approach to calculating these values or the implications of the equations presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential limitations in understanding the definitions of power transformed, conduction, and induction, as well as the implications of different turns ratios on power transfer. The discussion reflects a need for clarity on these concepts.

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Homework Statement


Upon finding my max. rated output power, and after finding the power transferred by conduction, can i just use:
Output power - power transferred by conduction = to get my power transferred by induction?

or do i have to apply the formula where, S = E1I1 = E2I2?


The Attempt at a Solution



I am not sure if i did the question correctly, but in the answer given to me, they used "Output power - power transferred by conduction" to get power by induction. however, when i did my working using the formula "S = E1I1 = E2I2", my answer was different.
 
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Hi killerdevil. There is a worked example at the foot of this page that will slay you. :smile:
 
when they state power transformed, are they referring to the power delivered at by induction? therefore they use power conducted - power transformed = power conducted??
 
Let's work it out.

Their equation is: Power Transformed = Load × (1–K)[/size]

If K=1 you know we would be dealing with a 1:1 turns ratio, and you know for a 1:1 turns ratio that power by induction is going to be zero. What does their equation give for K=1? It says Power Transformed = 0.

So it looks like "power transformed" is that delivered by transformer action, i.e., by induction. https://www.physicsforums.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
 
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so when does the equation for conduction comes in? how is induction related to conduction? what is the difference between power delivered by conduction and power delivered by induction?
 
When K=1, you saw that zero power is transformed by induction. Therefore all the power in the load is delivered by conduction directly from the mains--no transformer coil involved.

What power on the load side isn't due to induction must be due to conduction.
 

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