Optimized Autotransformer Rating - 2kVA to 4kVA?

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The discussion revolves around determining the new kVA rating of a single-phase transformer when it is reconfigured as an autotransformer. Participants explore various methods for calculating the kVA rating, considering different input voltages and configurations. The discussion includes theoretical aspects and practical implications of transformer ratings.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the kVA of the autotransformer as 3 kVA based on an output voltage of 300 V and current of 10 A.
  • Another participant suggests a different method from a textbook that results in a kVA rating of 4 kVA, questioning the assumptions made in the initial calculation.
  • There is confusion regarding whether to assume 200 V or 100 V as the input voltage for the transformer, with participants debating the implications of each choice on the kVA rating.
  • Some participants propose that if 200 V is connected to the high voltage (HV) side, the output voltage would be 300 V, leading to a calculation of 6 kVA based on a different current assumption.
  • Concerns are raised about the winding polarity and whether the connections are in series-aiding or series-opposition, with no consensus on the correct configuration.
  • One participant emphasizes that the transformer parameters suggest a supply of 100 V, but acknowledges that using 200 V could lead to a higher kVA rating.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate input voltage and the resulting kVA rating of the autotransformer. There is no consensus on which method or assumption is correct, and multiple competing views remain throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of winding polarity and the dot convention in determining the correct configuration, but these aspects remain unresolved. The discussion also highlights the dependency on the definitions of input and output voltages, which are not fully clarified.

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Homework Statement


A single-phase, 2 kVA, 100/200 V transformer is reconnected as an auto-transformer such that its kVA rating is maximum. What is the new rating in kVA?

Homework Equations


Rating is KV times the current.

The Attempt at a Solution


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For single winding transformer:
O/P voltage is Vab = Vac - Vbc.
Vab is 200 V as this is given in question.
O/P current is 2KVA/200 is 10A.

For auto transformer:
O/P voltage is Vac
Vac is Vab + Vbc is 200 + 100 is 300V.

O/P current is same in both cases that is flowing through the load and it is 10A.
So KVA of auto transformer is 300 * 10 equals 3KVA.

But books goes through other method where Vac is 200V
So Vab is 200 - 100 = 100 V.
KVA auto / KVA single phase = Vac/(Vac - Vbc) = 1/(1-Vbc/Vac) = 1/(1-0.5) = 2.
So KVA auto is 2 * KVA single phase = 2*2 = 4KVA.

Which method to use and why? Why is o/p voltage 200V in case of auto? Shouldn't it be 200 + 100 as I've drawn in picture?
 
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I also don't understand your book's method and I am getting an answer which is more than the answer provided by the book.

In the diagram you've posted, is Vab=200V already given or are you assuming it?
Try Vbc=200V i.e. the HV winding is supplied with 200V and HV+LV is the output.
 
No, I am assuming Vab = 200V. In the question it says it's a 100/200V transformer, so I'm assuming it means there is a 100V input suppy.
Thus for whatever connection, single winding or auto transformer the input volts should be 100V, right?

I'm sorry, the book doesn't give any solution. I had written that answer from the derivation in the book of single winding to auto transformer formula.

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If I connect 200 V to HV. Then... Vbc = 200V. Vac = 200 + 100 = 300V.
Now Vab = 100V. And it's a 2kva, so I ab = 2000/100 = 20A.

This Iab is same current through load for auto transformer so KVA of auto = 300 * 20 = 6000. 6 KVA.

But how can I connect 200 V to HV? Shouldn't it be only 100 V to HV, as the single winding transformer is 100/200 V.
 
jaus tail said:
as the single winding transformer is 100/200 V.
Doesn't that mean HV is at 200V?
jaus tail said:
so KVA of auto = 300 * 20 = 6000. 6 KVA.
Yes, assuming proper winding polarity. If the windings are connected in series-aiding fashion, the autotransformer rating will be 2kVA. So the windings should be connected in series opposition.
 
cnh1995 said:
Doesn't that mean HV is at 200V?
Oh. I thought it means that I have only 100V supply as input and I can connect it to LV side. Cause if I connect 100V to HV side then i'll get 50V.

Yes, assuming proper winding polarity. If the windings are connected in series-aiding fashion, the autotransformer rating will be 2kVA. So the windings should be connected in series opposition.

We haven't cleared this topic yet. In the diagram that I have drawn, is it series aiding or opposition?
 
You can connect 200V on the HV side (making it the primary) and get 300V on the autotransformer secondary.
jaus tail said:
We haven't cleared this topic yet. In the diagram that I have drawn, is it series aiding or opposition?
It can't be said because the dot convention is not used in the diagram. But don't think about that for now. I believe the connection is assumed to be in series-opposition fashion if not mentioned.
 
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But how can I connect 200 V to HV? Shouldn't it be only 100 V to HV, as the single winding transformer is 100/200 V.
My reading of this is that the parameters to work with are a supply of 100V, and the thin-wire winding rated to carry 10A.

Though, admittedly, it does not rule out the transformer being powered by 200V, so perhaps that should be examined to see whether it endows the transformer with a higher KVA rating.
 
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