Thevenin Resistance Homework: Find max Power Transferred & Delivered

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the Thevenin and Norton equivalents across two points in a circuit, specifically focusing on calculating the maximum power transferred and delivered. The context includes homework-related queries and attempts to apply circuit analysis techniques.

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  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about starting the problem and mentions the need to find the Thevenin equivalent using a voltage source and a resistor in series.
  • Another participant suggests performing nodal analysis twice: first with independent sources on to find the Thevenin voltage and then with them off to find the Thevenin resistance.
  • A participant later describes their approach using Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) to find the current through a node and calculates the open-circuit voltage and short-circuit current, leading to the determination of Thevenin resistance.
  • The calculated Thevenin resistance is presented as \(\frac{5}{4} \Omega\) based on the open-circuit voltage and short-circuit current values derived from the analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methods to find the Thevenin equivalent and the calculations involved, but the initial participant expresses confusion about the approach, indicating that the discussion remains somewhat unresolved regarding their understanding.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes references to specific circuit analysis techniques and calculations, but there are unresolved assumptions about the circuit configuration and the application of nodal analysis. The steps taken by the participants may depend on the definitions and conditions of the circuit elements involved.

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Students and individuals interested in circuit analysis, particularly those studying Thevenin and Norton equivalents and maximum power transfer principles.

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Homework Statement



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  • Basically asking me to find the Thevenin/Norton's equivalent across a-b.
  • Then figure out the maximum power transferred
  • Then figure out max power delivered

Homework Equations


  • Maximum power is transferred when [tex]R_{l} = R_{th}[/tex] .
    [*]Max power delivered is [tex]\frac{V_2}{4R_{th}}[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


I honestly don't know where to start this. I know Thevenin equivalent requires me to break this down into a voltage source, one resistor in series, but I really have no clue where to start. I tried using nodal analysis but this left me with nothing.

--My poor attempt at nodal analysis--

Node1:
[tex]-IR = 4[/tex]

[tex]I = \frac{-4}{R}[/tex]

Node2:
[tex]5I_1[/tex] = -3[tex]I_1[/tex]

--sub [tex]\frac{-4}{R}[/tex] for [tex]I_1[/tex]--[tex]5\frac{-4}{R} = -3\frac{-4}{R}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{-20}{R}= \frac{12}{R}[/tex]

[tex]-20 = 12[/tex]
?

A push in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
 
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You will need to do nodal analysis twice. Once with the independent sources on, once with them off (the later to find the Thevenin/Norton equivalent resistance).

Set the bottom to the ground node and the top is [tex]V_{th}[/tex]. This will yield one equation with one unknown- a straightforward solution.


To find [tex]R_{th}[/tex] turn off the independent source (the 4A current source), connect a test source between A and B and find the equivalent resistance from there.
 
Thank you very much! I will try this tomorrow morning and post my results. Again, thanks for the response.
 
No problem, it was good review for me as I have an exam on it monday :P
 
Okay. I think I got it.

Now, using KCL at the node above the dependent current source I have:

[tex]0 = 4 - 3_i_1 - i_1[/tex]
[tex]4 = 4_i_1[/tex]
[tex]\ldots i_1 = 1[/tex] amp

[tex]V_{oc} = 5 V[/tex] [tex]\ldots[/tex] [tex]V_T = 5 V[/tex]
[tex]I_{sc} = 4 A[/tex]

[tex]R_{th} = \frac{V_{oc}}{I_{sc}}[/tex]

[tex]R_{th} = \frac{5}{4} \Omega[/tex]

So, a voltage source of 5V in series with a resistor of [tex]\frac{5}{4} \Omega[/tex]. Now to figure out the max power delivered and max power transferred.
 
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