Why Does Angular Velocity Reach 24 rad/s in This Motion Equation Problem?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a slender uniform rigid arm subjected to a moment about the z-axis, with a focus on understanding the angular velocity reaching 24 rad/s. The equations of motion derived from the setup indicate that the angular velocity is primarily influenced by the applied moment, which varies over time. Participants suggest checking the math by analyzing the total change in momentum through the area of the force-time graph and considering the use of polar coordinates for clarity. The rapid increase in the linear velocity component (u) is attributed to the high applied moment, prompting questions about expected values and assumptions. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of mathematical accuracy and the relationship between applied forces and resulting motion.
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Hi,

I am having a little bit of conceptual trouble with this problem and would appreciate your help. The problem setup is given in the figure. Let's say we have a slender uniform rigid arm(mass m, length l) in space, with a coordinate system B attached to the left end of the arm as shown. C is the center of mass of the arm. We have a moment M_{z_b} acting about the \hat{z}_{b} axis.

physics_forums_fig.png


Let (u,v,w) and (p,q,r) be the inertial velocity and inertial angular velocity vectors expressed in B. I get the scalar equations of motion as (assuming that the angular velocity is only along \hat{z}_b):

m \dot{u} - \frac{ml}{2} r^2 = F_{x_b}
m \dot{v} + \frac{ml}{2} \dot{r} = F_{y_b}
m \dot{w} = F_{z_b}

0 = M_{x_b}
-\frac{ml}{2} \dot{w} = M_{y_b}
\frac{ml^2}{3} \dot{r} + \frac{ml}{2} \dot{v} = M_{z_b}

The applied moment is given as : M_{z_b}(t) = 160 \left(1 - \cos \left(\frac{2 \pi t}{15} \right) \right). For t > 15, M_{z_b} = 0. See figure below :
physics_forums_fig2.jpg


Integrating these equations using MATLAB's ode45, I get the following plot :
physics_forums_fig3.jpg


From the above figure :
1) There is only one component of angular velocity (yaw rate) which is as expected. But is the magnitude correct (ie should it reach 24 rad/s)?

2) I am not able to figure out what's going on with u. Why is it increasing so rapidly?

Any help would be really appreciated.

yogesh
 
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1. it's your math.
The total change in momentum is the area of the force-time graph ... so you can check.
I don't know why you are not doing this in polar coordinates.

2. I imagine because the moment is quite high.
Have you got any reason to expect u to increase less rapidly?
What sort of value were you expecting and why?
 
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