Calculating physical separation of 2 sources at unknown angle.

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The discussion centers on calculating the physical separation of Gamma Ray Bursts (GRBs) from their host galaxies, considering the observed angular offset of about 4 arcseconds. The challenge lies in accounting for the unobservable line of sight component, leading to the need for a scale factor to adjust the observed data. Initial thoughts suggest using the average of sin x over a half cycle for scaling, but further consideration points to a need for a factor based on the average of (sin x)^2 due to the complexities of orbital motion. The conclusion leans towards multiplying the observed values by √(3/2) to account for the independent coordinates in the squared distance calculation. This approach aims to provide a more accurate representation of the true separation of the GRBs from their host galaxies.
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I am doing a small project on Gamma Ray Bursts. I am looking at a data set of around a dozen bursts which are observed at an angular offset from their host galaxies (My theory is that they are in dwarf galaxies orbiting the host galaxy).

Say the average separation of these GRBs is 4 arcseconds from the hosts. This will not be the real separation because the observations could have a line of sight component of separation which is unobservable. I am looking for a scale factor to multiply the observed quantities by.

At first I thought the observations would be scaled down by a factor of the average of sin x over a half cycle. This corresponds to the average of the angle which the burst can be to the plane perpendicular to the line of sight.

Then I though of the orbit as a circle somewhere around a sphere. I believe there are two separate axes of rotation for this circle which would decrease our observed separation. Leading to a downsizing factor of the average of (sin x)^2 over a half cycle.

I think the first one is correct but I have confused myself in the visualization. A convincing answer would be great.
 
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If you consider the squared distance, the coordinates get independent. You see 2 of 3 coordinates, so you just 2/3 of the real average squared distance, assuming all directions from the host galaxy have the same probability.
 
So I should multiply my values by √(3/2) then. Thanks
 
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