Euler-lagrange Definition and 122 Threads
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Help with the Euler-Lagrange formula for a geodesic
Homework Statement The metric is: ds^{2} = y^{2}(dx^{2} + dy^{2}) I have to find the equation relating x and y along a geodesic.The Attempt at a Solution ds = \sqrt{ydx^{2} + ydy^{2}} - is this right? ds = \sqrt{y + yy'^{2}} dx F = \sqrt{y + yy'^{2}} So then I apply the Euler-Lagrange...- martinhiggs
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- Euler-lagrange Formula Geodesic
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Maximizing a functional when the Euler-Lagrange equation's solution violates ICs
Hi, I am trying to minimize: \int_0^\infty{\exp(-t)(t\,f'(t)-f(t))^2\,dt} by choice of f, subject to f(0)=1 and f'(x)>0 for all x. The (real) solution to the Euler-Lagrange differential equation is: f(t)={C_1}t rather unsurprisingly. However, this violates f(0)=1. If...- cfp
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- Euler-lagrange Functional
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- Forum: Differential Equations
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Why Can't η'(x) Be Arbitrary in the Euler-Lagrange Equation?
If we have a functional J(y)=\int L(y,y',x)dx then the first variation is \delta J=\int\left(\frac{\partial L}{\partial y}\eta(x)+\frac{\partial L}{\partial y'}\eta'(x)\right)dx, where \eta(x) is the variation of the stationary solution. Now, if L is independent of y(x), then...- daudaudaudau
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- Euler-lagrange
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- Forum: Calculus
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Deriving Field Equations for Real Vector Fields using Euler-Lagrange (Tensors)
Homework Statement Show that the Lagrangian density: L=- 1/2 [\partial_\alpha \phi_\beta ][\partial^\alpha \phi^\beta ]+1/2 [\partial_\alpha \phi^\alpha ][\partial_\beta \phi^\beta ]+1/2 \mu^2 \phi_\alpha \phi^\alpha for the real vector field \phi^\alpha (x) leads to the field equations...- ballzac
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- Euler-lagrange Tensors
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Solution of Euler-Lagrange equation
I have the following Lagrangian: \mathcal{L} = 1/2 \partial_{\mu} \varphi \partial^{\mu} \varphi - 1/2 b ( \varphi^{2} - a^{2} )^{2} , where a,b \in \mathbb{R}_{>0} and \varphi is a real (scalar) field and x are spacetime-coordinates. I calculated the Euler-Lagrange eq. and get...- parton
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- Euler-lagrange
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- Forum: Differential Equations
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Calculus of Variations Euler-Lagrange Diff. Eq.
I'm in dire need of help in understanding calculus of variations. My professor uses the Mathews and Walker text, second edition, entitled Mathematical Methods of Physics and, he has a tendency to skip around from chapters found towards the beginning of the text to those nearer the end. I...- avocadogirl
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- Calculus Calculus of variations Euler-lagrange
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- Forum: Differential Equations
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Derivation of Euler-Lagrange Equation
I am stuck in trying to understand the derivation of the Euler-Lagrange equation. This mathematical move is really bothering me, I can't figure out why it is true. \frac{\partial f(y,y';x)}{\partial\alpha}=\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\frac{\partial y}{\partial\alpha}+\frac{\partial...- Prologue
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- Derivation Euler-lagrange
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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Simplifying the Euler-Lagrange Equation for Explicitly Independent Functions
Homework Statement If the integrand f(y, y', x) does not depend explicitly on x, that is, f = f(y, y') then \frac{df}{dx} = \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}y' + \frac{ \partial f } {\partial y' } y''Use the Euler-Lagrange equation to replace \partial f / \partial y on the right and hence show...- roeb
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- Euler-lagrange
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Simple Derivation of Euler-Lagrange Equations
I'm trying to deduce the equations of motion in the form \frac{d}{dt} \frac{\partial \cal L}{\partial \dot{q}} - \frac{\partial \cal L}{\partial q} = 0 with little algebra directly from Hamilton's principle, like the geometric derivation of snell's law from the principle of least time. It...- dx
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- Derivation Euler-lagrange
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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How Can I Understand Euler-Lagrange Equations in Physics?
I'm taking a Physics class at Stanford U. and I am having difficulty understanding how to mathematically understand or translate the Euler-LaGrange equations of motion in both Classical and Quantum Field Theory. Any sort of English translation, background or hinting as to what type of math I...- NYSportsguy
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- Euler-lagrange
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Euler-Lagrange Equation for Functional S
Homework Statement Let P be a rectangle , f_{0} : \partial P \rightarrow R) continuous and Lipschitz, C_{0} = \{ f \in C^{2}(P) : f=f_{0} \ on \ \partial P \}. and finally S : C_{0} \rightarrow R a functional: S(f) = \int^b_a (\int^d_c (\frac{\partial f}{\partial x})^{2}\,dy)\,dx +...- neworder1
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- Euler-lagrange
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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How Can Maxwell's Equations Be Derived Using the Euler-Lagrange Equation?
Homework Statement I'm asked to get Maxwell's equations using the Euler-lagrange equation: \partial\left(\frac{\partial L}{\partial\left\partial_{\mu}A_{\nu}\right)}\right)-\frac{\partial L}{\partial A_{\nu}}=0 with the EM Langrangian density...- neu
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- Derivative Euler-lagrange
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Variations, Euler-Lagrange, and Stokes
Hi, I have some questions which I encountered during my thesis-writing, I hope some-one can help me out on this :) First, I have some problems interpreting coordinate-transformations ( "active and passive") and the derivation of the Equations of Motion. We have S = \int L(\phi...- haushofer
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- Euler-lagrange Stokes
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Euler-Lagrange equations in QFT?
Euler-Lagrange equations in QFT?? Hi, I have a problem with a Wikipedia entry::bugeye: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler-Lagrange_equation The equations of motion in your quantized theory (2nd quantization) are d/dtF^=[F^,H^] i.e the quantized version of d/dtF={F,H}. My notation: F^ is the...- Sunset
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- Euler-lagrange Qft
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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Where can I find a comprehensive derivation of the Euler-Lagrange equation?
Can someone link me to a thorough online derivation of the Euler-Lagrange equation from the principle of least action?- ehrenfest
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- Euler-lagrange
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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Verifying that the Euler-Lagrange equation uses generalized coordinates
This is a question that I'm asking myself for my own understanding, not a homework question. I realize that in most derivations of the Euler-Lagrange equations the coordinate system is assumed to be general. However, just to make sure, I want to apply the "brute force" method (as Shankar...- Saketh
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- Coordinates Euler-lagrange generalized Generalized coordinates
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Principle of Least Action & Euler-Lagrange Equations
I'll just throw down some definitions and then ask my question on this one. In a conservative system, the Lagrangian, in generalised coordinates, is defined as the kinetic energy minus the potential energy. L=L(q_i,\dot{q}_i,t) = K(q_i,\dot{q}_i,t) - P(q_i,t). All q_i here being functions...- ObsessiveMathsFreak
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- Euler-lagrange Least action Principle
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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Euler-Lagrange Equations for Schördinger Eq.
Euler-Lagrange equations for the Lagrangian density \mathcal{L} = V\psi \psi^* + \frac{\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{\partial \psi}{\partial x}\frac{\partial \psi^*}{\partial x} + \frac{1}{2}\left(i\hbar \frac{\partial \psi^*}{\partial t} \psi- i\hbar \frac{\partial \psi}{\partial t} \psi^*\right) gives...- gulsen
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- Euler-lagrange
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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Simple calculus - interpretation Euler-Lagrange equation
This is not a homework question but one that is part of the course material and I can't really move on until I understand the basic calculus. I have a problem interpreting "d by dx of partial dF by dy' equals partial d by dy' of dF by dx" in the following question, which I set out and then...- oldstudent
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- Calculus Euler-lagrange Interpretation
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Minimum Surface Area Cylinder using Euler-Lagrange Equation?
So, I've been reading Thornton and Marion's "Classical Dynamics of Particles and Systems" and have gotten to the chapter on the calculus of variations. In trying the end of chapter problems, I find I'm totally baffled by 6-9: given the volume of a cylinder, find the ratio of the height to the...- TMFKAN64
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- Area Cylinder Euler-lagrange Minimum Surface Surface area
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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Missing step: Euler-Lagrange equations for the action integral
Hi its me again, stuck once more. Sorry guys and gals :P Ok a problem I found on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_%28physics%29 In a 1-D case how do we get from: \delta S = \int_{t_1}^{t_2} [L(x + \varepsilon, \dot{x} + \dot{\varepsilon})-L(x,\dot{x})]dt to: \delta S = \int_{t_1}^{t_2}...- alfredblase
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- Euler-lagrange Integral
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Applications of Euler-Lagrange Equation
hey, In my physics class we are now learinging beginging to learn about lagrange ion mechanics and I am a little stuck on the basics of it particularly fermat's principle (dealing with light travel) and applications of the Euler-Lagrange Equation, I can't seem to get many of the problems at the...- matpo39
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- Applications Euler-lagrange
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- Forum: Classical Physics