Lagrangian dynamics Definition and 35 Threads
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A Are equations of motion invariant under gauge transformations?
We know that all actions are invariant under their gauge transformations. Are the equations of motion also invariant under the gauge transformations? If yes, can you show a mathematical proof (instead of just saying in words)?- Baela
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- Equations of motion Gauge Gauge invariance Invariant Lagrangian dynamics Lagrangian mechanics Motion Transformations Variational principle
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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A Independence of generalized coordinates and generalized velocities
How can I make sense of this and further how to think of this in the context of phase space diagrams?- VVS2000
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- Coordinates generalized Generalized coordinates Independence Lagrangian dynamics
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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Spring-mass system with a pendulum using Lagrangian dynamics
I'm stuck in a problem of a spring mass system with a pendulum attached to it as showed in the figure below: My goal is to find the movement equation for the mass, using Lagrangian dynamics. If the spring moves, the wire will move the same amount. Therefore, we can write the x and y position...- MarkTheQuark
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- Dynamics Lagrange equation Lagrangian Lagrangian dynamics Pendulum Potential energy Spring mass system System
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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I Proving that ##\omega_0^2 < 2g/l ## for a simple pendulum.
Here is the problem : A pendulum is composed of a mass m attached to a string of length l, which is suspended from a fixed point. When hanging at equilibrium, the pendulum is hit with a horizontal impulse that results in an initial angular velocity ω0. Show that if ω20 < 2g/l, the string will...- hello_world30
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- Lagrange multiplier Lagrangian dynamics Pendulum Simple pendulum
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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Lagrangian Problem (Find Relation between Amplitude and Momentum)
The given lagrangian doesn't seem to correspond to any of the basic systems (like simple/ coupled harmonic oscillators, etc). So I calculated the momentum ##p## which is the partial derivative of ##L## with respect to generalized velocity ##\dot{q}##. Doing so I obtain $$p =...- Wannabe Physicist
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- Amplitude Lagrangian Lagrangian dynamics Lagrangian mechanics Momentum Relation
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Motion of particles close to the Earth
I tried to solve the problem in 2 ways, first using lagrangian mechanics and second by putting a rotating reference frame on the initial take-off point. However I cannot be sure if the equations of motion for the two solutions came out the same. A-) Equations of motion from Lagrangian...- flyleaf_
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- Coriolis force Earth Lagrangian dynamics Motion Particles
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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I Deriving the 4-momentum of a free particle moving in curved spacetime
Consider a free particle with rest mass ##m## moving along a geodesic in some curved spacetime with metric ##g_{\mu\nu}##: $$S=-m\int d\tau=-m\int\Big(\frac{d\tau}{d\lambda}\Big)d\lambda=\int L\ d\lambda$$...- jcap
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- 4-momentum deriving Free particle Geodesic Lagrangian dynamics Particle Spacetime
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Solving the Constrained Lagrangian Dynamics equation for a simple pendulum
The equations is of the form of Differential algebraic Equation, of index 3.- Azeemsha
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- Dynamics Lagrangian Lagrangian dynamics Pendulum Simple pendulum
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- Forum: Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
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A Gauge breaking and Faddeev-Popov ghost particles
Summary: In QFT, if we add a gauge breaking term to the Lagrangian, do we still need to introduce Faddeev-Popov ghost particles? Ghosts seems to be introduced to maintain gauge invariance. But suppose we have eliminated the gauge invariance, from the start, by explicitly introducing a gauge...- Michael Price
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- Gauge Gauge fixing Ghosts Lagrangian dynamics Particles Qft
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- Forum: Quantum Physics
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A The δ Notation in Calculus of Variations
On page 224 of the 5th edition of Classical Dynamics of Particles and Systems by Stephen T. Thornton and Jerry B. Marion, the authors introduced the ##δ## notation (in section 6.7). This notation is given by Equations (6.88) which are as follows: $$\delta J = \frac{\partial J}{\partial... -
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Geodesics and Motion in an EM Field
I've also attached my attempt as a pdf file. My main issue seems to be I only get one A partial term. Any help would be appreciated.- Woolyabyss
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- Em Euler lagrange equation Field Geodesics Lagrangian dynamics Motion Special relativity
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Cylinder with Displaced Center of Mass Rolling Down Incline
Homework Statement A rigid cylinder of radius ##R## and mass ##\mu## has a moment of inertia ##I## around an axis going through the center of mass and parallel to the central axis of the cylinder. The cylinder is homogeneous along its central axis, but not in the radial and angular directions...- GL_Black_Hole
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- Center Center of mass Cylinder Incline Lagrangian dynamics Mass Rigid body dynamics Rolling
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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What is the Lagrangian, equations of motion for this system?
<<Moderator's note: Moved from a technical forum, no template.>> Description of the system: The masses m1 and m2 lie on a smooth surface. The masses are attached with a spring of non stretched length l0 and spring constant k. A constant force F is being applied to m2. My coordinates: Left of...- Amitayas Banerjee
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- Classical mechanics Equations of motion Lagrange's equation Lagrangian Lagrangian dynamics Lagrangian mechanics Mechancis Motion System
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Lagrangian Field Theory - Maxwell's Equations
Homework Statement $$ L = -\frac{1}{2} (\partial_{\mu} A_v) (\partial^{\mu} A^v) + \frac{1}{2} (\partial_{\mu} A^v)^2$$ calculate $$\frac{\partial L}{\partial(\partial_{\mu} A_v)}$$ Homework Equations $$ A^{\mu} = \eta^{\mu v} A_v, \ and \ \partial^{\mu} = \eta^{\mu v} \partial_{v}$$ The...- Woolyabyss
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- Electrodynamics Field Field theory Lagrangian Lagrangian dynamics Maxwell's equations Theory
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Proving stable equilibrium: Rotating circular hoop
Homework Statement A circular hoop of radius R rotates with angular frequency ω about a vertical axis coincident with its diameter. A bead of mass m slides frictionlessly under gravity on the hoop. Let θ be the bead’s angular position relative to the vertical (so that θ = 0 corresponds to the...- JyJ
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- Analytical mechanics Circular Equilbirium Equilibrium Lagrangian dynamics Rotating Stable
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Independence of Position and Velocity in Lagrangian Mechanics
In Lagrangian mechanics, both q(t) and dq/dt are treated as independent parameters. Similarly, in Hamiltonian mechanics q and p are treated as independent. How is this justified, considering you can derive the generalized velocity from the q(t) by just taking a time derivative. Does it have...- quickAndLucky
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- Hamiltonian Independence Lagrangian Lagrangian dynamics Lagrangian mechanics Mechancis Mechanics Position Velocity
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- Forum: Mechanics
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Bead Sliding on Rotating Rod after Motor is Turned Off
Homework Statement A bead of mass m slides in a frictionless hollow open-ended tube of length L which is held at an angle of β to the vertical and rotated by a motor at an angular velocity ω. The apparatus is in a vertical gravitational field. a) Find the bead's equations of motion b) Find...- Ichigo449
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- Angular momemtum Bead Classical mechanics Lagrangian dynamics Motor Rod Rotating Sliding
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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A Deriving Equations of Motion in GR
Question Background: I'm considering the Eddington-Robertson-Schiff line element which is given by (ds)^2 = \left( 1 - 2 \left(\frac{\mu}{r}\right) + 2 \left(\frac{\mu^2}{r^2}\right) \right) dt^2 - \left( 1 + 2 \left( \frac{\mu}{r} \right) \right) (dr^2 + r^2 d\theta^2 + r^2 \sin^2{\theta}...- Matter_Matters
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- Derive Equations of motion General relativity Geodesic equation Gr Lagrangian dynamics Motion
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- Forum: Special and General Relativity
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Example 7-10 Lagrangian Dynamics Marion and Thornton
Homework Statement A particle of mass m is on top of a frictionless hemisphere centered at the origin with radius a" Set up the lagrange equatinos determine the constraint force and the point at which the particle detaches from the hemisphere Homework Equations L=T-U The Attempt at a...- MARX
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- Dynamics Example Lagrangian Lagrangian dynamics Physics
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I Motivation for mass term in Lagrangians
In field theory a typical Lagrangian (density) for a "free (scalar) field" ##\phi(x)## is of the form $$\mathcal{L}=\frac{1}{2}\partial_{\mu}\phi\partial^{\mu}\phi -\frac{1}{2}m^{2}\phi^{2}$$ where ##m## is a parameter that we identify with the mass of the field ##\phi(x)##. My question is...- Frank Castle
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- Classical field theory Field theory Intuition Lagrangian dynamics Lagrangians Mass Motivation Term
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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Lagrangian Dynamics Homework: Find Missing Term
Homework Statement Homework Equations The last part of this question is an example of this result: The Attempt at a Solution Here is the solution I think L' is missing a term: If we take the Earth as your frame of reference.(i.e. You are stationary, watching the movement of the railway...- davon806
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- Dynamics Lagrangian Lagrangian dynamics
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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A One Hamiltonian formalism query - source is Goldstein's book
In 3rd edition of Goldstein's "Classical Mechanics" book, page 335, section 8.1, it is mentioned that : In Hamiltonian formulation, there can be no constraint equations among the co-ordinates. Why is this necessary ? Any simple example which will elaborate this fact ? But in Lagrangian...- swapnilp
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- Book Classical mechanics Hamiltonian Hamiltonian formalism Lagrangian dynamics Source
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- Forum: Classical Physics
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Lagrangian of two mass and spring/pulley system
Homework Statement Two blocks of equal mass, m, are connected by a light string that passes over a massless pulley. One block hangs below the pulley, while the other sits on a frictionless horizontal table and is attached to a spring of constant k. Let x=0 be the equilibrium position of the...- Elvis 123456789
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- Differential eqautions Lagrangian Lagrangian dynamics Lagrangians Mass System
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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A question on Lagrangian dynamics
Hi all, I've recently been asked for an explanation as to why the Lagrangian is a function of the positions and velocities of the particles constituting a physical system. What follows is my attempt to answer this question. I would be grateful if you could offer your thoughts on whether this is...- "Don't panic!"
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- Calculus of variations Dynamics Lagrangian Lagrangian dynamics Lagrangian mechanics
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- Forum: Mechanics
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Lagrangian Dynamics: Potential Energy formulation with spring and gra
Hi, I have a conceptual question regarding Lagrangian dynamics. It has to do with the potential energy formulation. My instructor today mentioned something in class that does not make much sense to me. Here is he most basic example that illustrates my confusion: Take a simple 1dof... -
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Derivation of Noether's theorem in Lagrangian dynamics
I'm going to run through a derivation I've seen and ask a few questions about some parts that I'm unsure about. Firstly the theorem: For every symmetry of the Lagrangian there is a conserved quantity. Assume we have a Lagrangian L invariant under the coordinate transformation qi→qi+εKi(q)...- physiks
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- Derivation Dynamics Lagrangian Lagrangian dynamics Noether's theorem Theorem
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- Forum: Introductory Physics Homework Help
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Integration help, Kepler's problem Lagrangian dynamics
Homework Statement Carry out the integration ψ = ∫[M(dr/r2)] / √(2m(E-U(r)) - (M2/r2)) E = energy, U = potential, M = angular momentum using the substitution: u = 1/r for U = -α/r Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution This is as far as I've gotten: -∫ (Mdu) /...- black_hole
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- Dynamics Integration Lagrangian Lagrangian dynamics
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Lagrangian Dynamics - Grandfather Clock?
Homework Statement The pendulum of a grandfather clock consists of a thin rod of length L (and negligible mass) attached at its upper end to a fixed point, and attached at its lower end to a point on the edge of a uniform disk of radius R, mass M, and negligible thickness. The disk is free...- jabgaunt92
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- Clock Dynamics Lagrangian Lagrangian dynamics
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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How Do You Formulate Lagrange Equations for a Mass on a Rotating Parabolic Path?
A point of mass m, affected by gravity, is obliged to be in a vertical plan on a parabola with equation z = a.r^2 a is a constant and r is the distance between the point of mass m and the OZ vertical axis. Write the Lagrange equations in the cases that the plan of the parabola is : a) is...- Fabio010
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- Dynamics Lagrangian Lagrangian dynamics
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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How Do You Apply Lagrange Multipliers to a Rolling Disk and Fixed Bar System?
Homework Statement Hi all, I need to derive differantial equations of system with lagrange multiplier method, a disk is rolling and a bar is fixed onto the point of a disk http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1669/adsziss.jpg By deniz120 at 2010-05-31 Homework Equations The...- deniz120
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- Dynamics Lagrangian Lagrangian dynamics
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help
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Is L=T+w a Universal Definition in Lagrangian Dynamics for Dissipation Systems?
while facing dissipation systems, some books define the L with L=T+w. is it universal? where is its limits? THX! -
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Lagrangian Dynamics, calculating virtual force
I'm very happy that I found this forum, hello everyone. I'm studying Lagrangian Dynamics and I can't figure out how to find the generalized forces in a setup like this: ____ ____ | | ___ | | | b1 |===|___|===| b2 | |____| |____| --->x... -
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Are There Any PDFs on Lagrangian Dynamics with Problems and Solutions?
Is there any pdf about Lagrangian Dynamics include problem and solution. Thanks... -
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How Are Rotational Transformations Applied in Lagrangian Dynamics?
My question pertains to Example 1.2 of Schaum's Outline of Lagrangian Dynamics by Dare A. Wells, chapter 1, page 4. You can view the diagram and the example (1.2) by going to the following link on Amazon.com and clicking on Excerpt, and then going to page 4...- NoPhysicsGenius
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- Dynamics Lagrangian Lagrangian dynamics
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Lagrangian Dynamics problem - with setup
Lagrangian Dynamics problem -- need help with setup Here's the problem: A simple pendulum of length b and bob with mass m is attached to a massless support moving horizontally with constant acceleration a. Determine the equations of motion. For the pendulum, x = b sin theta and y = b cos...- don_anon25
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- Dynamics Lagrangian Lagrangian dynamics
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- Forum: Advanced Physics Homework Help