10m Steel Wire Length/ +20 Degrees C

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The discussion revolves around the thermal expansion of a steel wire, specifically how much longer a 10-meter steel wire becomes when the temperature increases by 20 degrees Celsius. The problem involves concepts from material science and thermodynamics related to linear expansion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formula for calculating the change in length due to temperature change and the significance of the original temperature in the calculation. There are attempts to clarify the correct application of the linear expansion coefficient and the importance of estimating results before calculating.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the method and emphasizing the importance of estimation in calculations. There is acknowledgment of differing answers and a focus on understanding the process rather than just arriving at a final answer.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about their calculations and the need for a ballpark estimate to avoid errors in their work. There is mention of the original temperature being less relevant to the change in length calculation.

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[SOLVED] 10m Steel Wire Length/ +20 Degrees C

Homework Statement


10.00-m long steel wire supports a pendulum bob at its end. How many millimeters longer is the wire when the temperature increase by 20.0 C


Homework Equations



(Delta)L = La(Delta)T
or
Change in Length = Length * linear expansion * change in temperature

Linear Expansion for Steel

a = 11x10^-6/C


The Attempt at a Solution



The problem asks for: How many millimeters longer is the steel wire when the temp increases by 20 celsius.

Variables:

L = 10M
a = 11x10^-6/C
(delta)T = (x+20)
x = original temp

equation: (delta)L = 10m * (11*10^-6/(x+20)) * (x+20)

Attempt at Solving:

110m * 10^-5 (the x+20 cancel out?)

And then I get confused as what to do. Any help is appreciated, tips are always welcome.
 
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It is the change in temperature so you don't care about the original temperature
You had it exactly correct with
Change in Length = Length * linear expansion * change in temperature

Remember with these small numbers it is easy to make a calculator slip so estimate first.
10 ppm * 20 deg = 200ppm = 0.2 parts/thousand = 0.2mm/m so roughly 2mm
 
Thanks much. Ill go through again and see if I can come up with the same answer. I am sure yours is correct don't get me wrong, I just need to learn it myself too. You help is unbelievably appreciated.
 
My answer isn't correct (the answer is 2.2mm) I was just making the point that you need to have a 'ball park' estiamte of the answer before you start putting numbers into the caclualtor or you won't know if you made a typo.

You had exactly the correct method.
 
I was just getting back to posting with my answer being around 3mm :) I still need to work on my step by step process though obviously. Thanks again! You rock in my book of various stones. <--that was a joke, bad one, but still a joke!
 

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