18v drill battery to 5v regulator?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility and methods of converting an 18V lithium-ion drill battery to a 5V output suitable for charging an iPhone. Participants explore various voltage regulation options, including linear regulators and switching DC-DC converters, while considering efficiency and component requirements.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about using a 7805 or 7812 regulator for stepping down voltage from 18V to 5V, expressing uncertainty about the need for heat sinks.
  • Another participant suggests that a switching DC-DC buck regulator would be more efficient than linear regulators, potentially extending battery life and eliminating the need for heat sinks.
  • Several participants share links to pre-built DC-DC converter modules, discussing their suitability for the application.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of a datasheet for a specific module, leading to questions about how to set the output voltage and whether it would provide a consistent 5V supply.
  • One participant mentions checking local suppliers in the UK for suitable components and asks if additional items are needed for a specific switching regulator.
  • Another participant confirms that a suggested switching regulator appears reasonable and advises checking the datasheet for any necessary external components.
  • Discussion includes a reference to a datasheet indicating that an input capacitor is only required for input voltages above 32V, which may simplify the setup.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the best approach to voltage regulation, with some advocating for linear regulators and others for switching converters. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions about efficiency, component requirements, and the need for additional parts, but these aspects remain unresolved and depend on specific configurations and components chosen.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in electronics, particularly those looking to interface high-voltage battery systems with low-voltage devices, as well as those seeking practical advice on component selection and circuit design.

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18v drill battery to 5v regulator??

Hi I have been doing a bit of research but am still a little unsure,
I am trying to charge an iPhone from a dewalt drill battery,

What I have so far is that the iPhone is a 5v 1000ma supply
And the dewalt battery is 18v lithium ion

Can I use a 7805 regulator or will I have to use a 7812 regulator first?
Also what heat sinks etc would I need

Thanks for any help
Sorry not up on the electronics ! Ha
 
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Coxyboy said:
Hi I have been doing a bit of research but am still a little unsure,
I am trying to charge an iPhone from a dewalt drill battery,

What I have so far is that the iPhone is a 5v 1000ma supply
And the dewalt battery is 18v lithium ion

Can I use a 7805 regulator or will I have to use a 7812 regulator first?
Also what heat sinks etc would I need

Thanks for any help
Sorry not up on the electronics ! Ha

It would be much more efficient (the Dewalt battery will last longer, and you won't need heat sinks) if you use a switching DC-DC buck regulator to convert from 12V to 5V. You may be able to find a pre-built one, or there may be simple electronics kits that you could solder together to do this...
 
This regulates the voltage - USB Charger

Any choice of these is the power supply, ensure it is rated at 7.4v or 2s (3.7*2) - Batteries

These are the proper plugs for the battery(s), "female" are for the batteries - Plugs/adapters

Chargers can be had on the cheap too, most are offered without a power supply themselves - Cheap wall charger good for 3000mah (about a 5 hour charging time)

probably total $40-50 incl shipment to an open trade area for a 3000mah power supply for usb charging...not bad at all. Oh but requires mere guerrilla precision soldering skills.
 
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Coxyboy said:
Will something like this do?
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=251276533029&cmd=VIDESC
How will I get a consistent 5v supply out and it has a vout range above and below?

I don't see a datasheet at that page (I may have missed it), so it's not clear how to set the output voltage. I'd stick with a fixed version, like the one I posted. Because cars use 12V batteries, 12V to 5V step-down converters are pretty common.
 
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berkeman said:
I don't see a datasheet at that page (I may have missed it), so it's not clear how to set the output voltage. I'd stick with a fixed version, like the one I posted. Because cars use 12V batteries, 12V to 5V step-down converters are pretty common.

Will this be suitable ?

http://uk.rs-online.com/mobile/p/switching-regulators/6664379/

As I am In The uk I have been checking local sites will I need anything else?
Sorry for the questions
Thank you in advance
 
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Coxyboy said:
Will this be suitable ?

http://uk.rs-online.com/mobile/p/switching-regulators/6664379/

As I am In The uk I have been checking local sites will I need anything else?
Sorry for the questions
Thank you in advance

That looks like a reasonable candidate. Check the datasheet to see if you need to add external capacitors --they may be included inside though.
 
berkeman said:
That looks like a reasonable candidate. Check the datasheet to see if you need to add external capacitors --they may be included inside though.

http://www.tracopower.com/products/tsr1.pdf

According to the data sheet an input capacitor is only needed when input is greater than 32v so hopefully this will be all I need I will order it and let you know how I get on thanks
 

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