2 integrals - - (within next 30 mins if possible)

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The discussion revolves around two integrals involving rational functions and square roots, specifically \(\int_0^{b}\frac{dx}{x+\sqrt{x}}\) and \(\int^{b}_{} (x + \sqrt{x})^{-1}dx\). Participants are exploring methods of integration and substitution techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various substitution methods, including \(x=t^2\) and \(y=\sqrt{x}\), and question the effectiveness of these approaches. There is mention of partial fractions and hints at simplifications that could aid in integration.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and suggestions for substitutions, while others are reflecting on their attempts and the challenges faced. There is a recognition of the relationship between the two integrals, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive approach.

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Participants are working under time constraints, with an emphasis on urgency for a solution. There are references to previous discussions and attempts that may influence the current problem-solving process.

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2 integrals - URGENT - (within next 30 mins if possible)

Homework Statement



\int_0^{b}\frac{dx}{x+\sqrt x}

\int^{b}_{} (x + \sqrt{x})^{-1}dx
_{ 1}

The Attempt at a Solution



For the first i have tried x=t^2 but ended up with something i can't integrate (2t/(t^2 + t) dt

for the second i tried u= 1 + x^3 but that did'nt help -
 
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Hint:
\frac{2t}{t^2 + t} = \frac{2t+1}{t^2 + t} - \frac{1}{t^2 + t}

This screams substitution for the first term and partial fractions for the second.

Your second integrand is exactly like your first one. Am I missing something?
 
ahhhh- yeah the second is

\int^{\infty}_{} (1 + x^{3})^{-1/2} dx
_{ 1}
 
try the substitution

y=sqrt[x]

...oh, right... that is what you tried... then factor out a y from numerator and denominator...
 
cool - cheers
 
\int_0^{b}\frac{dx}{x+\sqrt x}

This thing works out nicely if you factor out \sqrt{x}, giving you

\sqrt{x}\left(\sqrt{x} + 1\right)

Then let u = \left(\sqrt{x} + 1\right) and you're almost done.
 
yeah - i got the x= t^2 but i could't integrate (2t/(t^2 + t) dt

thanks though
 
Mattofix said:
yeah - i got the x= t^2 but i could't integrate (2t/(t^2 + t) dt

thanks though
i also simplified it in there, now you will end up with 2 ln(1+t) on the interval sqrt b, and 0
 

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