2 weights on strings, 1 attached to pulley, the other end anchored

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves two weights connected by strings, with one weight attached to a pulley and the other end anchored. The original poster seeks to determine the unknown weight, referencing a drawing of the setup.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the importance of Free Body Diagrams (FBDs) and the need for the original poster to demonstrate some effort in understanding the problem. There is a focus on identifying relevant equations and principles related to forces and equilibrium.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants encouraging the original poster to draw FBDs and explore the forces involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the irrelevance of rope lengths if they are considered massless.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the original poster's time constraints, as the homework is due in two days, and the possibility of the student seeking clarification from the teacher about missing information.

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Homework Statement


https://imgur.com/jE8SMDR
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That's a drawing of the problem. I need to solve for the ? weight.

Homework Equations


not sure

The Attempt at a Solution


none, I don't want the answer, I just want the relevant equations. I haven't taken physics in a few years though (I'm out of college, trying to help a friend in high school physics). I used to be pretty good at this but if you don't use it for a while I guess you forget.
 

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wolfpack4417 said:

Homework Statement


https://imgur.com/jE8SMDR That's a drawing of the problem. I need to solve for the ? weight.

Homework Equations


not sure

The Attempt at a Solution


none, I don't want the answer, I just want the relevant equations. I haven't taken physics in a few years though (I'm out of college, trying to help a friend in high school physics). I used to be pretty good at this but if you don't use it for a while I guess you forget.
Welcome to the PF.

Do you remember how to draw free body diagrams (FBDs)? With those, if nothing is moving, then the sum of all vector forces on each object must be zero. Can you show us your FBDs?
 
Hi wolfpack4417,

Welcome to Physics Forums!

I'm afraid that we can't provide any help without you showing some effort first. You must have some idea of some formulas you'll need, what sort of quantities and principles are involved, how forces sum, and so forth. You should at least be able to draw and label a Free Body Diagram (FBD) for the point where the strings meet.

Edit: Oops! @berkeman beat me to it!
 
Oh I do remember Free Body Diagrams, I'm at work right now, but I'll google that when I get home and try to draw some. I'm 27 and I took physics when I was 21, so it's a little blurry. My cousin asked me to try to help her with her homework and I felt like I would be able to remember enough to do it, but when she sent me the problem I had no idea haha.

Also when I was trying to solve it on my own, I felt like the length of the ropes would be relevant but she said she didn't remember the teacher telling her those values. Am I wrong in that assumption? It isn't due for 2 days she said, so she can ask in class tomorrow if she needs the lengths.
 
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wolfpack4417 said:
Also when I was trying to solve it on my own, I felt like the length of the ropes would be relevant but she said she didn't remember the teacher telling her those values. Am I wrong in that assumption? It isn't due for 2 days she said, so she can ask in class tomorrow if she needs the lengths.
The rope lengths are irrelevant. Very likely the original problem statement would have declared them to be "light" or "massless", so their lengths would not alter the forces involved, either in magnitude or direction.
 
wolfpack4417 said:
It isn't due for 2 days
Even so, going through an intermediary will slow things down and risks being less helpful to the student. Can you persuade her to come into the thread in person?
 
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