3D Scanner using static electric fields

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges of designing a device that uses static electric fields to map the internal and external structures of objects. Participants explore the feasibility of such a device, comparing it to existing technologies like CT scanners, and consider the implications of material properties on the scanning process.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that as an electric field propagates through matter, it encounters absorption, which could affect the scanning process.
  • Another participant points out that all objects conduct electricity to some degree, implying that perfect insulators do not exist, which complicates the scanning of conductive materials.
  • Concerns are raised about the need for numerous data points and sender/receiver combinations, along with high timing resolution, to accurately detect the RF phase, although a later post shifts the focus to static electric fields.
  • There is a suggestion that while conductive objects pose challenges, algorithms might be developed to address these issues.
  • A participant expresses skepticism about the feasibility of achieving proper 3D reconstruction using static electric fields, noting the complexity of distinguishing different parts of the object.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the feasibility of using static electric fields for 3D reconstruction, with some expressing skepticism about the method's effectiveness and others suggesting potential solutions through algorithmic approaches.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to the assumptions about material conductivity, the nature of electric fields, and the technical challenges of achieving accurate 3D reconstructions.

taylaron
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Greetings PFers,
Can someone help explain to me the difficulties of designing a device which utilizes static electric fields to map an objects’ internals and externals?

My understanding is that as a electric field propagates through matter, it encounters absorption.
I envision a device which utilizes a RF emitter and a sensor 180 degrees opposite the object being scanned. Wouldn't this scanner function much like a CT scanner? As the field penetrates more matter, its field strength decreases a measurable amount.

Conductive objects would make scanning difficult because they would conduct the electric field, instead of impeding it.

-Tay
 
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All objects are conducting, there are no perfect insulators.
I'm not sure how the object reconstruction would look like, and you will certainly need a lot of data points and sender/receiver combinations, together with a very good timing resolution (<< nanosecond) to detect the RF phase. And it fails if too much metal is in the object, of course.

RF fields are not static, by the way.
 
mfb said:
All objects are conducting, there are no perfect insulators.
I'm not sure how the object reconstruction would look like, and you will certainly need a lot of data points and sender/receiver combinations, together with a very good timing resolution (<< nanosecond) to detect the RF phase. And it fails if too much metal is in the object, of course.

RF fields are not static, by the way.

Sorry, I thought I removed all references to RF fields. I changed my position to static electric fields instead.

Without having to worry about sub nanosecond accuracy with static fields, I still see conductive objects as being an obstacle, but surely an algorithm can be used to solve most of that problem. Any other thoughts?

-Tay
 
I still don't see how you want to do a proper 3D reconstruction. It will be highly non-trivial to distinguish parts of the 3D object with static fields.
 

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