412.0.10 ok so going with dot product with 07312400508

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the check digit for the UPC number $07312400508$ using the dot product method. Participants explore the calculations involved in finding the checksum and the implications of the number of digits in the UPC format.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a calculation using the dot product method to find the checksum for the UPC number, detailing each step of the multiplication and summation.
  • Another participant confirms the calculation and notes the need to add a twelfth digit to ensure the checksum is zero modulo 10.
  • A subsequent participant asks what the twelfth digit should be, prompting further exploration of how to achieve a multiple of 10 from the current checksum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the calculations presented so far, but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific value of the twelfth digit needed to complete the UPC.

Contextual Notes

There is an implicit assumption that the UPC format requires a total of 12 digits, and the calculations depend on the correct interpretation of the dot product method for checksum determination.

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Use the UPC scheme to determine the check digit for the number $07312400508$.

here is the example from the book
View attachment 8330
ok so going with dot product with 07312400508
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
&\quad (0731 2 4 0 0 5 0 8)\cdot(3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3)\\
&= 0\cdot3+7\cdot1
+3\cdot3+1\cdot1
+2\cdot3+4\cdot1
+0\cdot3+0\cdot1
+5\cdot3+0\cdot1
+8\cdot3 \\
&=7+9+1+6+4+15+24\\
&=66\\
66mod10&=6
\end{align*}

so far?? but the number only has 11 digits
 
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karush said:
ok so going with dot product with 07312400508
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
&\quad (0731 2 4 0 0 5 0 8)\cdot(3,1,3,1,3,1,3,1,3)\\
&= 0\cdot3+7\cdot1
+3\cdot3+1\cdot1
+2\cdot3+4\cdot1
+0\cdot3+0\cdot1
+5\cdot3+0\cdot1
+8\cdot3 \\
&=7+9+1+6+4+15+24\\
&=66\\
66\pmod{10}&=6
\end{align*}

so far?? but the number only has 11 digits
That is correct so far. You now have to add a twelfth digit so as to make the checksum zero$\pmod{10}$.
 
Opalg said:
That is correct so far. You now have to add a twelfth digit so as to make the checksum zero$\pmod{10}$.
What would be the 12th digit?
 
karush said:
What would be the 12th digit?
What do you have to add to 66 to get a multiple of 10?
 

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