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At first I should say that this thread involves many scientific fields and I don't think there is any correct section of PF to put it under so I just went with the engineering.
One of the greatest mysteries(maybe the greatest) that science is trying to solve today, is the emergence of consciousness from the chemical and electrical processes of the human body, specifically the brain.
Its really amazing that there is this system made out of all this material ingredients and operating under all this physical laws, that accommodates something as seemingly immaterial as our consciousness. But if you think about it, you'll see that there is a similar thing going on with computers. There is all this hardware that ultimately does everything and some form of output that gives us the result, but still, when you write a function in C++, that function has no physical manifestation. The underlying hardware is just sending some electrical signals through logic gates, etc. If there is any kind of programming language that can be said to have a physical manifestation in the underlying hardware, is the assembly language. So in a way, there is actually some abstract thought going on in our computers and that is actually how we have managed to get so much work out of computers, by creating abstractions over abstractions and so on over them, so that we can communicate more and more complex ideas to them.
This makes me think that although computers have far less capabilities when it comes to consciousness, it doesn't mean that they can't be a starting point to the understanding of the human consciousness. But how can we use them in that way?
Well...Although when we think about the implementation of computers, the picture of a dozen electrical circuits comes to mind, these electrical circuits are only an implementation of an abstract idea called the Turing machine, a machine with a way of getting an input, running it through an algorithm and returning an output, and it should be able to handle any algorithm. So...maybe electrical circuits have a fundamental limitation in implementing such an idea. Maybe there is an implementation out there that gives this idea far more power than we observe with current computers. And when I look at the human brain, I think that maybe that implementation is actually a system involving a combination of electrical and chemical processes.
So I think there can be a new direction in researching consciousness and that is trying to find a brain-like implementation of a Turing machine.
Please feel free to share your thoughts or any relevant material.
One of the greatest mysteries(maybe the greatest) that science is trying to solve today, is the emergence of consciousness from the chemical and electrical processes of the human body, specifically the brain.
Its really amazing that there is this system made out of all this material ingredients and operating under all this physical laws, that accommodates something as seemingly immaterial as our consciousness. But if you think about it, you'll see that there is a similar thing going on with computers. There is all this hardware that ultimately does everything and some form of output that gives us the result, but still, when you write a function in C++, that function has no physical manifestation. The underlying hardware is just sending some electrical signals through logic gates, etc. If there is any kind of programming language that can be said to have a physical manifestation in the underlying hardware, is the assembly language. So in a way, there is actually some abstract thought going on in our computers and that is actually how we have managed to get so much work out of computers, by creating abstractions over abstractions and so on over them, so that we can communicate more and more complex ideas to them.
This makes me think that although computers have far less capabilities when it comes to consciousness, it doesn't mean that they can't be a starting point to the understanding of the human consciousness. But how can we use them in that way?
Well...Although when we think about the implementation of computers, the picture of a dozen electrical circuits comes to mind, these electrical circuits are only an implementation of an abstract idea called the Turing machine, a machine with a way of getting an input, running it through an algorithm and returning an output, and it should be able to handle any algorithm. So...maybe electrical circuits have a fundamental limitation in implementing such an idea. Maybe there is an implementation out there that gives this idea far more power than we observe with current computers. And when I look at the human brain, I think that maybe that implementation is actually a system involving a combination of electrical and chemical processes.
So I think there can be a new direction in researching consciousness and that is trying to find a brain-like implementation of a Turing machine.
Please feel free to share your thoughts or any relevant material.