A child slides down the helical water slide AB (Polar Coordinates)

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The problem involves a child sliding down a helical water slide described in cylindrical coordinates. The parameters include a radius of 4 meters, an angular position defined by θ=ω²t², and a height function z=h[1-(ω²t²/π)], with specific values for h and ω. The goal is to compute the magnitudes of the velocity and acceleration vectors at a specific point on the slide.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to determine the time t at point B to compute the velocity and acceleration. There are questions about whether it is acceptable to leave t in symbolic form or if it can be calculated from the given data. Some participants suggest that the change in z provides a means to find t.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants offering guidance on how to approach the problem. There is acknowledgment of potential arithmetic errors and a focus on ensuring the correct substitution of variables. Multiple interpretations of the z value and its implications are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the direction of z in relation to the motion of the child on the slide. There is an emphasis on working through the problem symbolically before substituting numerical values.

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Homework Statement


13.43 A child slides down the helical water slide AB. The description of motion in cylindrical coordinates is
##R=4m##, ##θ=ω^2t^2## and ##z=h[1-(\frac {ω^2t^2} {π})]##, where h=3m and ω=0.75rad/s.
Compute the magnitudes of the velocity vector and acceleration vector when the child is at B.

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Is this correct?
 
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Yes, this looks right. You just need to find the value of ##t## at point ##B## to get a number.
 
NFuller said:
Yes, this looks right. You just need to find the value of ttt at point BBB to get a number.

Is this possible to find t with the given data? or is it ok to leave it as it is?
 
Alexanddros81 said:
Is this possible to find t with the given data? or is it ok to leave it as it is?
Yes, this is possible since you know the change in ##z##.
 
Looks like a maybe a slip when substituting for ##v_{\theta}##.

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It's often a good idea to work things out in symbols and then plug in numbers at the very end.
 
TSny said:
Looks like a maybe a slip when substituting for vθ
After correction v becomes 4.62t

NFuller said:
Yes, this is possible since you know the change in zzz.

At first I couldn't figure this out but then I realized that the child is sliding down the slide. This means that if we accept as the z positive direction
is upwards then the formula becomes:

##z=h[1- (\frac{ω^2t^2} {π})] => -3=3-0537t^2 => t=3.34s##
So ##v=4.62t=15.43 m/s##
and ##a=56.66 m/s^2##

Am I correct?
 
I think so, so long as there aren't any other arithmetic errors I missed.
 
Alexanddros81 said:
##z=h[1- (\frac{ω^2t^2} {π})] => -3=3-0537t^2 => t=3.34s##
Is the final value of z equal to -3 m?
 

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