A critically damped simple harmonic oscillator - Find Friction

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The discussion centers on calculating the friction force in a critically damped simple harmonic oscillator, specifically using the formula c = 2√(km) where k = 150 and m = 0.58. The calculated critically damped factor c is 18.65, leading to a friction force of -0.27 N based on an average velocity of 0.01429 m/s. However, there is contention regarding the interpretation of "the force" in the problem statement, with one participant noting that the initial force is -7.5 N when acceleration is greatest.

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Homework Statement
A critically damped simple harmonic oscillator starts from an amplitude of 5.0 cm and comes to rest at equilibrium 3.5 sec later. The simple harmonic oscillator is made of a .58 kg mass hanging from a spring with spring constant 150 N/m. Assuming the friction force is in the vertical direction, how big is the friction force?
Relevant Equations
Critically Damping factor c = 2√(km)
Friction force = -cv
Velocity v=disp/time
c = Critically Damped factor
c = 2√(km)
c = 2 × √(150 × .58) = 18.65
Friction force = -cv
Velocity v = disp/time = .05/3.5
Friction force = - 18.65 * .05/3.5 = -.27 N

I am not sure if above is correct. Please check and let me know how to do it.
 
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Hello @muskaanhamad , :welcome: !

muskaanhamad said:
Velocity v = disp/time = .05/3.5
I can't agree with that: you calculate an average velocity so you find an average force.
Unfortunately, the wording of the problem statement is unclear: 'the force' ?

I did a simulation of your scenario:

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and as you can see the force starts at -7.5 N (namely ##-x_0*k##) when the acceleration is greatest.
I have no idea what the exercise composer means when he/she asks for 'the force'...
 
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