A few general questions about Optics

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The discussion revolves around general questions related to optics, specifically focusing on the relationship between light intensity and frequency, the effects of colored filters on light intensity, and methods for converging different colored lights. The scope includes conceptual inquiries and technical explanations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether light intensity changes with frequency when comparing white and blue LED lights powered by the same voltage.
  • Another participant explains that a white LED is essentially a blue LED with a phosphor coating, which results in fewer photons being emitted compared to a blue LED.
  • It is noted that if comparing a blue LED to a red LED, the blue LED would radiate less light due to its higher energy output.
  • Discussion includes the effect of shining white light through a colored filter, with the assertion that only the frequency not absorbed by the filter will pass through, while others will be attenuated.
  • A suggestion is made that using a lens can effectively converge incoherent light from different sources onto a surface, such as a white sheet of paper.
  • A reference to Fabry-Pérot interference filters is provided, highlighting their narrow bandwidth and suggesting they could enhance understanding of color and light interference.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying perspectives on the relationship between light intensity and frequency, as well as the effects of filters. The discussion includes both agreement on certain technical points and differing interpretations of the implications.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the behavior of light and filters are not explicitly stated, and the discussion does not resolve the complexities of light intensity and frequency relationships.

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Individuals interested in optics, light behavior, and related technical concepts may find this discussion beneficial.

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Does light intensity change along with frequency? In other words, if you put the same voltage behind a white LED light and a blue LED light will the white light have a higher intensity or just a different frequency?

Also, would shining a white light through a very clean thin colored filter change the intensity?

Lastly, what would be required to converge different colored lights together? Do I just need a lens, or do I need a prism of some kind?



If you have any links to where I can find out information like this, I would be most appreciative. I tried Google but nothing I found answered my questions. Until I get a book on optics, my thanks to whoever can help answer my questions.
 
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ShaggyKyle said:
Does light intensity change along with frequency? In other words, if you put the same voltage behind a white LED light and a blue LED light will the white light have a higher intensity or just a different frequency?

Also, would shining a white light through a very clean thin colored filter change the intensity?

Lastly, what would be required to converge different colored lights together? Do I just need a lens, or do I need a prism of some kind?



If you have any links to where I can find out information like this, I would be most appreciative. I tried Google but nothing I found answered my questions. Until I get a book on optics, my thanks to whoever can help answer my questions.

A white LED is a blue LED--a blue LED with a phosphor coating on the inside! Yep, the same kind of phosphor that coats the inside of a flourescent light. For this reason, the white LED will radiate fewer photons than the blue LED, as the phosphor in the white LED is somewhat lossy.
If you were to compare a blue LED with a red LED (neither have phosphors in them), then yes, the blue led will radiate less light with the same current draw, because blue is a more energetic source of electromagnetic radiation.

Shining white light thru a color filter will pass only that frequency that the color filter will not absorb. So while the passed frequency will not be decreased (just pretend we're using an ideal filter), all other frequencies get absorbed by the filter, thus the frequencies that get absorbed will be radically attenuated and lessened.

If you're "converging" incoherent light (the kind of light coming from your LED, or a flourescent lamp), then using a lens to focus the different colors onto a white sheet of paper will very effectively blend them.

One last thing I'll leave you with: research the Fabray/Perot interference/color filter. These filters have an extremely narrow bandwidth, and learning how these color filters work will give you a great lesson on color, light and interference in general. :smile:
 
Thank you very much for the quick informative reply. You answered everything I asked and the questions I didn't think about asking! :biggrin:
 
ShaggyKyle said:
Thank you very much for the quick informative reply. You answered everything I asked and the questions I didn't think about asking! :biggrin:

You're welcome. Now vote me in as Forum Science Advisor. :devil:
 

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