A geometry problem with a circle and a bisected radius

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The discussion revolves around a geometry problem involving a circle and a bisected radius, where the user struggles to prove that segments AE and DE are equal. The user attempts angle chasing and assumes certain angles, specifically that ∠AUV and ∠AVU are both 45°, which is contested by another participant. A counterexample is presented, demonstrating that AE does not equal DE, challenging the user's assumptions. The conversation highlights the importance of adhering to the problem's conditions and the validity of counterexamples in geometric proofs. The user is encouraged to reconsider their approach based on the feedback received.
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In triangle ABC, BAC=90°. AD is an altitude of the triangle ABC. A circle is drawn which center is A and radius is AD (I have got the problem from a book.But there's a printing mistake and the problem states that the radius is just 'A'!! But 'A' is just a point and so it can't be radius.So I have just guessed it should be 'AD' but I'm not sure about it.).The circle intersects triangle ABC at U and V. UV meets with AD at E.Prove that AE=DE.The picture is not drawn to scale.
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I have tried a lot by angle chasing e.g. let ∠ABC=x° then ∠ACB=90°-x°. As AU=AV=radius of circle so ∠AUV=∠AVU=45°. I've connected U,D and V,D. Then ∠UDV=135° etc. But I haven't found any way to get near of proving AE=DE. I have also tried to prove 'the area of triangle AEU= area of triangle DEU'.But I've also failed this time.So please tell me what to do next.
 
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Hi,
Akash47 said:
Here ∠AUV=∠AVU=45°
That is not in the problem statement. Is it a given, or have you made an assumption ?
Whatever, even with 45° I don't agree that AE=DE can be right ...
 
BvU said:
Hi,
That is not in the problem statement. Is it a given, or have you made an assumption ?
Whatever, even with 45° I don't agree that AE=DE can be right ...
No,it's not the statement. Please now look in the problem. I've said that I've just guessed that The radius should be AD,but I'm not sure.
 
Counter example: let ∠DAC indeed be 45°, and the radius be ##r##. Then AE = ##{1\over 2} r \sqrt 2\ ## so clearly AE ##\ne ## DE
 
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Your example is not reasonable.I have just guessed that 'AD ' is radius.Then clearly ∠ AUV=∠AVU=45°.But how can you say that ∠DAC=45°?This is totally unreasonable. Have I ever said that ∠ BCA=45°?Please have a good look on the problem.
 
Akash47 said:
Your example is not reasonable.I have just guessed that 'AD ' is radius.
But the problem statement says:
In triangle ABC, BAC=90°. AD is an altitude of the triangle ABC.
which makes AD the radius of the circle.
 
Also, since ∠BAC = 90°, and since U and V are points on the circle, AU and AV are radii of the circle. From this we can infer that ∠AUV = ∠AVU = 45°.

Akash47 said:
Your example is not reasonable.I have just guessed that 'AD ' is radius.Then clearly ∠ AUV=∠AVU=45°.But how can you say that ∠DAC=45°?This is totally unreasonable.
@BvU's example is reasonable. He's not saying that ∠DAC=45°; he's using that as a counterexample to what you're supposed to prove. His single counterexample shows that you cannot prove that AE = ED.
 
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