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The discussion revolves around identifying effective general chemistry textbooks suitable for undergraduate self-study. Participants share their criteria for what constitutes a good or bad textbook, focusing on aspects such as visual explanations, depth of content, and the presence of examples.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for a general chemistry textbook that explains concepts like orbital theory, kinetics, and bonding in detail, similar to their experience with an organic chemistry book by David R Klein.
  • The participant critiques bad textbooks for lacking visual explanations, clear examples, depth in derivation of theories, and for including excessive text that could be more concise.
  • Conversely, they propose that a good textbook should provide great visual explanations, depth in reasoning and logic, and a concise presentation with ample examples.
  • Another participant suggests considering "Zumdahl - Chemical Principles" and "Atkins - Chemical Principles: The Quest for Insight," expressing uncertainty about which book better explains concepts like acid-base chemistry and quantum theory.
  • A different participant mentions a helpful resource, linking to a book by Vogel, without elaborating on its content or relevance.
  • In a repeated post, the original participant reiterates their criteria for good textbooks and lists their favorite general chemistry textbooks: "Chemistry: A Molecular Approach" by Nivaldo Tro and "General Chemistry" by Linus Pauling, suggesting these as strong options for self-study.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single recommended textbook, with multiple competing views on what constitutes a good chemistry textbook and which specific titles to consider. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best options for general chemistry self-study.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying opinions on the effectiveness of different textbooks, highlighting the subjective nature of textbook selection based on individual learning preferences and needs.

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In this post i want to discuss good chemistry textbooks vs. bad chemistry textbooks and I'd like some help finding a good General chemistry textbook for university - Undergraduate level.
What Is a good introductory chemistry textbook?

So i finally found a book in organic chemistry which actually explains a subject like no other book I've ever read - The book is called Organic chemisty by David R Klein. If i could find a book in general chemistry that succeeds in explaining subjects such as orbital theory, kinetics, bonding etc. in equal detail (no cutting corners) i'd be really happy!

What makes a textbook bad in my opinion?
  • Lack of visual explanation - fx. explaining orbital theory with a limit amount of images of orbitals and how they overlap.
  • Lack of clearly demonstrated examples - A definition can first really be grasped when you get your hands dirty or see A LOT of examples clearly demonstrating what is being spoken about and what is NOT being spoken about.
  • Lack of Depth: Explaining subjects or theories without showing in depth how the theory is derived, through math, reasoning and a visual demonstration of the experimental setup. Just learning an equation/calculus is easy but understanding clearly how the equation is derived - the reasoning, the assumptions made when discovering the equation - is essential to understanding the subject.
  • Too much nonsense text: In some textbooks pages could be boiled down to a few sentences and still demonstrate a subject clearly.

What Makes a textbook great, and where can I find such a book in general Chemistry?
(undergraduate level)?
  • All the opposites of the negatives.
  • Great visual explanation - Images demonstration what is being spoken about.
  • Depth: Deriving equations, showing and explaining the experimental setup, the reasoning, the logic so you understand how the equation came into existence and in which situations it's relevant. This is much better than an oversimplified view with no actual logical argument/math involved.
  • Short but concise and with ample amount of examples, for the reader to understand the point.
I'd really like to find general chemistry book for self-study (perhaps with a solution manual for self check) which close to meets theese requirements.

So my question is: IS there such a general chemistry book? Or would i have to buy several books? What books would you recommend?
 
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Hello. At the time was very helpful this book: http://booksbw.com/index.php?id1=4&category=chemistry&author=vogel-ai&book=19741234
 
christian0710 said:
In this post i want to discuss good chemistry textbooks vs. bad chemistry textbooks and I'd like some help finding a good General chemistry textbook for university - Undergraduate level.
What Is a good introductory chemistry textbook?

So i finally found a book in organic chemistry which actually explains a subject like no other book I've ever read - The book is called Organic chemisty by David R Klein. If i could find a book in general chemistry that succeeds in explaining subjects such as orbital theory, kinetics, bonding etc. in equal detail (no cutting corners) i'd be really happy!

What makes a textbook bad in my opinion?
  • Lack of visual explanation - fx. explaining orbital theory with a limit amount of images of orbitals and how they overlap.
  • Lack of clearly demonstrated examples - A definition can first really be grasped when you get your hands dirty or see A LOT of examples clearly demonstrating what is being spoken about and what is NOT being spoken about.
  • Lack of Depth: Explaining subjects or theories without showing in depth how the theory is derived, through math, reasoning and a visual demonstration of the experimental setup. Just learning an equation/calculus is easy but understanding clearly how the equation is derived - the reasoning, the assumptions made when discovering the equation - is essential to understanding the subject.
  • Too much nonsense text: In some textbooks pages could be boiled down to a few sentences and still demonstrate a subject clearly.

What Makes a textbook great, and where can I find such a book in general Chemistry?
(undergraduate level)?
  • All the opposites of the negatives.
  • Great visual explanation - Images demonstration what is being spoken about.
  • Depth: Deriving equations, showing and explaining the experimental setup, the reasoning, the logic so you understand how the equation came into existence and in which situations it's relevant. This is much better than an oversimplified view with no actual logical argument/math involved.
  • Short but concise and with ample amount of examples, for the reader to understand the point.
I'd really like to find general chemistry book for self-study (perhaps with a solution manual for self check) which close to meets theese requirements.

So my question is: IS there such a general chemistry book? Or would i have to buy several books? What books would you recommend?
I've got about 6 gen chem textbooks and my favorite two are:

Chemistry: A molecular approach - Nivaldo Tro

General Chemistry - Linus Pauling

Between these two and a good 1st&2nd year calculus book you'll be styling.
 

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