A harder Frobenius Differential

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The discussion revolves around a differential equation of the form xu'' + 2y' + xy = 0, which is approached using the Frobenius method. Participants are exploring the complexities involved in applying this method to the given equation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • One participant expresses difficulty with the Frobenius method, noting that the problem seems harder than previous experiences. They discuss the implications of summation limits when applying the method and question how to derive the indicial polynomial given their setup. Others seek clarification on the problem statement and the correctness of their approaches.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and seeking clarification on specific aspects of the problem. There is a mix of exploration and questioning regarding the setup and application of the Frobenius method, but no consensus has been reached yet.

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Participants are grappling with the removal of terms from summations and the implications for deriving the indicial polynomial. There are indications of confusion regarding the problem statement and its formulation.

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Homework Statement



xu'' + 2y' + xy = 0


Homework Equations



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frobenius_method

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok, so i have managed the Frobenius method in the past, but this seems harder...


[tex] \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_n(n+c)(n+c-1)x^{\ n+c-2} + 2\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_n(n+c)x^{\ n+c-2} + \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_nx^{\ n+c} = 0[/tex]

[tex] \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_n(n+c)(n+c-1)x^{\ n+c-2} + 2\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_n(n+c)x^{\ n+c-2} + \sum_{n=2}^{\infty} a_{\ n-2}x^{\ n+c-2} = 0[/tex]

i cannot simply remove n=0 as i would if there were only a difference of one between the sumation limits, here i would have to remove n=0 and n=1 which means that i would not have a quadratic multiplied by [tex]a_0[/tex]to solve, to find the c values. I would have one quadratic multiplied [tex]a_0[/tex] by and one by [tex]a_1[/tex]...
 
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I meant xy'' + 2y' + xy = 0...

To clarify, from the wikipedia article and looking at the example,

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'We can take one element out of the sums that start with k=0 to obtain the sums starting at the same index.'
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'We obtain one linearly independent solution by solving the indicial polynomial r(r-1)-r+1 = r2-2r+1 =0 which gives a double root of 1'

I have two equations if i remove n=0 and n=1, what shall i do to get my indicial polynomial?
 
Here is the question:
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and my solution:
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am i right? is the question wrong? please can someone clarify this.
 
please...
 
... :(
 
f uckyall bitchez - i solved it.
 

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