A Nonlinear Second Order Differential Equation Problem

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The discussion revolves around a nonlinear second order differential equation related to the motion of a dust particle falling under gravity while accumulating mass from condensing water vapor. The original poster seeks assistance in deriving the equation of motion and understanding the implications of their findings.

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  • The original poster attempts to solve the equation of motion by substituting a function and expresses confusion about determining constants. Some participants suggest using a different independent variable and transforming the equation into a linear form. Others introduce methods for solving linear differential equations and clarify the structure of the equations involved.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering guidance on transforming the equation and discussing methods for solving it. There is a mix of understanding and confusion, particularly regarding the application of certain techniques and the interpretation of constants in the equations.

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The original poster notes their lack of prior experience with second order ODEs, which may influence their understanding and approach to the problem. There is also mention of imposed homework constraints that may affect the discussion.

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A Nonlinear Second Order Differential Equation Problem: very frustrating please help!

Hello, I am a first year engineering undergraduate student, and this is my question.

Homework Statement


A dust particle of negligible mass starts to fall, t=0, under the influence of gravitational force through mist of saturated water vapor. The vapor condenses onto the dust particle at a constant rate of \lambda kilogram per meter of traveled distance. The dust particle thereby develops into a rain droplet with increasing mass.

a) Calculate the acceleration of the droplet as a function of its velocity and covered distance.

b) Determine the equation of motion of the droplet by integrating the expression of the acceleration, neglecting friction, collisions, etc.

Homework Equations


I have already solved a). The equation (which I am told is correct) is:
\frac{dv}{dt} + \frac{v^{2}}{x} = g

where g is the gravitational field strength.

The Attempt at a Solution


I was given the 'hint' of substituting f(x) = At^{n} to solve this equation for the position x, and determine A and n.

I have no idea how to determine A and n, frankly. In fact, I have never done Second Order ODEs before, let alone nonlinear Second Order ODEs. (Before you ask why I would be set a question on Second Order ODEs not having done it before - my professor - let's just say I've had better elementary schools teachers.)

I arrive at this equation:

(2n^{2}-n)At^{n-2} = g

What do I do from here now? Four hours of rearranging to no avail.

P.S. After sleuthing around, I discovered that the usual method for solving such equations is to substitute it to a first order one. This doesn't look like it...
 
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Hi Overmage,

Your equation

<br /> \frac{dv}{dt} + \frac{v^{2}}{x} = g<br />

is correct, it was a good job to derive it!


Now it is a first order differential equation (contains first derivative only), but non-linear. Luckily, it does not contain the time itself. There is a trick for such equations, often applied in Mechanics: We will use x as independent variable instead of t.

<br /> \frac{dv}{dt} =\frac{dv}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt}=v\frac{dv}{dx}<br />

Substituting for dv/dt, your equation becomes:

<br /> \frac{dv}{dx}v+\frac{v^{2}}{x} = g<br />

Now the second trick comes:

<br /> \frac{dv}{dx}v=0.5\frac{d(v^2)}{dx}<br />

and we choose v^2 as dependent variable, say y=v^2.

Now we arrived at a totally different-looking equation:

<br /> 0.5 \frac{dy}{dx}+\frac{y}{x} = g<br />

This is a linear equation! You can solve it by assuming y in a product form: y=F*G.

Have you learned that method from Maths? If you do not know it yet, I'll explain.

Anyway: the solution will be:

<br /> v^2=\frac{2gx}{3}<br />

from where you get the acceleration, and it will be a surprise!

ehild
 
No, I'm not familiar with that. =( could you give me a general idea of how that works out?
 
You have a differential equation of form

a(x)y'+b(x)y=c(x) (the prime means differentiation), with initial condition y=0 at x=0, the prime means differentiation.

Assume Y=F(X)G(x).

a(x)(F'G+FG')+b(x)FG =c(x). *

You have the freedom to choose G so that

a(x)FG' + b(x) FG =0

Divide the eq. by F.

a(x)G'+b(X)G=0.

You can solve this equation by separating the variables.

\int{\frac{dG}{G}}=\int{\frac{-b(x)}{a(x)}dx}

Replace back G(x) into eq. *.

a(x)F'G(x) = c(x)

F(x)=\int{\frac{c(x)}{a(x)G(x)}}+const

y=F(x)G(x).
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Your equation is :

0.5 y' +y/x =g ---> y'+2y/x=2g

a=1, b=2/x, c=g


\int{\frac{dG}{G}}=-\int{\frac{2}{x}dx} \rightarrow G(x)=x^{-2}

F&#039;G(x)=c(x)\rightarrow F&#039;=2gx^2 \rightarrow<br /> <br /> F(x)=\frac{2gx^3}{3}+C

y(x)= F(x)G(x)=\frac{2gx}{3}+\frac{C}{x^2}

C=0 according to the initial condition.

y(x)=\frac{2gx}{3}

ehild
 
Hey,

Thanks a lot for the help! I really appreciate it. However, can i clarify just one last thing:

0.5 y' +y/x =g ---> y'+2y/x=2g

a=1, b=2/x, c=g

shouldn't c be = 2g?

Thanks for the help you've given! Wow, this problem is kinda hard. Think you've pretty much covered it all though.
 
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overmage said:
Hey,

Thanks a lot for the help! I really appreciate it. However, can i clarify just one last thing:



shouldn't c be = 2g?

Thanks for the help you've given! Wow, this problem is kinda hard. Think you've pretty much covered it all though.

Yes, of course... :)


ehild
 

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