A problem from science fiction - intersecting curves

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The problem involves a spaceship traveling along a curved path defined by the function f(t) = (t, t²) and the need to release a pod to intersect with a space station's orbit described by g(t) = (4 + cos(πt/8), 8 - sin(πt/8)). The challenge is to determine the optimal release time s for the pod to reach the space station, considering the pod's trajectory and speed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the trajectory of the pod after release, questioning the correct formulation of its path and speed. There are attempts to derive equations relating the pod's position to the space station's orbit, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the complexity of the resulting equations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various equations and constraints related to the release time and the pod's trajectory. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the release time and the pod's speed, but no consensus has been reached on the specific values or methods to solve the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note constraints on the release time s, indicating it must be between 0 and 3, and discuss the implications of the cosine function on the possible values of s and t. There is acknowledgment of the complexity involved in solving the equations derived from the problem setup.

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1. Homework Statement [/b]

A spaceship is traveling on a curved path, f(t) = (t, t2)

(We'll assume that the path isn't affected by gravity, this is a math problem, not physics :-) )

It has to release a pod to intersect a space station that has an orbit described by the following:

g(t) = (4+cos([itex]\frac{πt}{8})[/itex], 8-sin([itex]\frac{πt}{8}[/itex]))

The pod will travel at a tangent from the curved path f(t) and I want to know at what time s I should release it to get to the space station and how long it will take.

The Attempt at a Solution



OK, so I know that since I am releasing the pod at time s, my first vector to add will be (s, s2). And those numbers will be constant.

I know that f'(t) = (1, 2t)

So that means that a pod will be zooming off the curve in a path described by (s+t, s2+2t). (correct?)

So to see if the pod will hit the space station and when, I need

(s+t, s2+2t) = (4+cos([itex]\frac{π(s+t)}{8})[/itex], 8-sin([itex]\frac{π(s+t)}{8}[/itex]))But after that I am stuck, and I feel like there is some simple step I am missing. I know that the time s of release can't be more than s=3 and less than 0 because if s=0 the line is horizontal and never hits the circle described, and if s≥3 it will miss the circle full stop. So there are some constraints here. I am almost there, I feel like.
 
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So that means that a pod will be zooming off the curve in a path described by (s+t, s2+2t). (correct?)
Not quite.

For the spacecraft , v(t)=(1,2t)
At time t=s, the speed of the spacecraft , and thus the pod, will be... ?
... and thus, the position-time equation of the pod will be... ?
 
A time t=s the speed of the spacecraft is f'(s) or (1,2s) so that's the speed of the pod.

The position of the pod would have to be (s+t, s2+(2s)t) after that, yes?

So you'd want (s+t, s2+(2s)t) = (4+cos[itex]\frac{(s+t)π}{8}[/itex], 8-sin[itex]\frac{(s+t)π}{8}[/itex])

That's still pretty ugly when you want to solve it, no?
 
It's usually nastier than that because the pod will be traveling along a conic section as well.
And then - real orbits are seldom that tidy.

You want to solve for s - you'll find there are lots of solutions from the restraints you have specified.
 
OK, but when I try to do that I get s = 4-t+cos([itex]\frac{(t+s)π}{8}[/itex])

And I still have a lot of possibilities for both s and t. I do know that -1<s+t-4<1, b/c of the cosine function. And I know that s>0, and t>0 so for this to work 3< s+t < 5. Am I getting it right so far?

Further, s2+2st = 8-sin([itex]\frac{(t+s)π}{8}[/itex])

which gets me s(1+2t) = 8-sin([itex]\frac{(t+s)π}{8}[/itex])

or 8-s(1+2t)=sin([itex]\frac{(t+s)π}{8}[/itex])

since -1<8-s(1+2t) <1 7<s(1+2t)<9, yes?
 
I still have a lot of possibilities for both s and t
Yes you do - why would you expect any different?

You are using t as the elapsed time between release and capture.
You should find an equation for this time in terms of the release time and the speed of the pod.
 

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