A question regarding the Gauss's Law

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The discussion revolves around Gauss's Law for electric fields, specifically questioning how Gauss formulated this law regarding closed surfaces and the historical context of its development. Participants explore the mathematical foundations and experimental evidence that may have influenced Gauss's conclusions.

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  • One participant questions the generality of Gauss's Law as stated in Wikipedia, asking about the instruments available during Gauss's time that could have led to such a formulation.
  • Another participant suggests that Gauss's Law is a direct result of the divergence theorem, providing a mathematical expression of this relationship.
  • A different participant argues that the equation cited is a later mathematical formulation and implies that Gauss must have derived his law from experimental evidence.
  • It is noted that the divergence theorem was independently discovered by several mathematicians, indicating its mathematical nature and physical applications.
  • One participant concludes that Gauss likely used the divergence theorem to formulate Gauss's Law.

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The discussion contains multiple competing views regarding the origins of Gauss's Law, with some participants emphasizing mathematical derivation while others highlight the role of experimental evidence. No consensus is reached on how Gauss arrived at his conclusions.

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Participants express uncertainty about the historical context and the instruments available to Gauss, as well as the implications of the divergence theorem in relation to Gauss's Law.

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Hi

I have some questions about the Gauss's law for electric field. Wikipedia definition says

The electric flux through any closed surface is proportional to the enclosed electric charge

Now how did Mr Gauss arrive at this conclusion regarding any closed surface ?
That is a very general statement. And during his time, were there instruments which could have lead to the formulation of such general principles ?

And can you please explain this without "electric field lines" since they are not
physically real lines ?
 
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If i remember correctly, it's a direct result of the divergence theorem.

Essentially, if there is a vector field A, then the volume integral of the divergence of A in a volume V is equal to the closed surface integral of A normal to the surface enclosing V:

[tex]\int (\nabla \cdot A) dV = \oint (A \cdot n) dS[/tex]

In Gauss's Law, the vector field is the electric field.
 
But, Jasso, I think the equation you quote is a later mathematical formulation of the Gauss's Law. Gauss's must have arrived at it from some experimental evidence .
 
The divergence theorem was independantly discovered by Lagrange, Gauss, Green, and Ostrogradsky, With Ostrogradsky providing a rigorous mathematical proof of it. It's a pure mathematics with physical applications.
 
ok, That makes sense then. So Gauss just used this theorem to come up with the Law..
 

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