A simple area calculation, where is the mistake ?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a calculation of the area under the curve of the function f(x) = 0.5x^2 within a rectangle defined by specific vertices. Participants are examining the discrepancy between their calculated area and the answer provided in a textbook, exploring methods of integration and the properties of parabolic areas.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant believes their calculated area of 10.666667 differs from the textbook's answer of 21.3333 and seeks assistance.
  • Another participant asserts that the textbook's answer is correct and questions the method used for the calculation.
  • Several participants discuss the use of integration to find the area, with one questioning the definite integral used to represent the area.
  • Some participants suggest that the area under the curve appears to be about 2/3 of the area of rectangle ABCO, with one stating it is exactly 2/3 for any parabola of the form y = ax^2.
  • A participant describes their integration process and acknowledges a mistake in their calculation, realizing they forgot to multiply by 0.5.
  • Another participant proposes an alternative integral to find the area directly, suggesting it is equivalent to the previous method discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the initial area calculation, as participants express differing views on the correctness of the original answer and the methods used. Some participants agree on the property of the area being 2/3 of the rectangle for parabolas, while others focus on the specific calculations and discrepancies.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific integration techniques and the properties of parabolic areas, but there are unresolved details regarding the assumptions made in the calculations and the definitions of the areas involved.

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Hello all

I have solved a problem, and my answer differ from the one in the book from where it's taken. I think I did it correctly, can you assist ?

In the attached photo we have the graph of f(x)=0.5x^2
(half of x squared)

In the rectangle ABCO, BC is twice the size of OC. Calculate the dashed area.

View attachment 1186

The answer in the book is 21.3333
My answer is 10.666667

I think that 21.3333 is the area that complete to the whole rectangle. Am I right ?

Thanks !
 

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Your textbook is correct. Are you given a formula, or are you supposed to use integration? I ask because you posted in the Pre-Calculus forum, so I didn't know exactly what pre-calculus technique would be used.
 
Integration.

How can the area be 21.333 ?
 
Yankel said:
Integration.

How can the area be 21.333 ?

What definite integral did you use to represent the area?
 
Yankel said:
Integration.

How can the area be 21.333 ?

Doesn't it look like about 2/3 of the area of rectangle ABCO.

Well, it turns out that it is exactly 2/3 of that area.
 
M R said:
Doesn't it look like about 2/3 of the area of rectangle ABCO.

Well, it turns out that it is exactly 2/3 of that area.

Interestingly, it turns out to be 2/3 of the rectangular area for any parabola of the form $y=ax^2$ and for any rectangle having the opposing vertices $(0,0)$ and $\left(b,ab^2 \right)$. :D
 
MarkFL said:
Interestingly, it turns out to be 2/3 of the rectangular area for any parabola of the form $y=ax^2$ and for and rectangle having the opposing vertices $(0,0)$ and $\left(b,ab^2 \right)$. :D

It's more general than that. It'2 2/3 for every parabola.View attachment 1187
 

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I used:

\[\int_{0}^{4}\frac{1}{2}x^{2}dx\]

to do the area under the function, in the normal way, I got 21.333
and then I subtracted is from 32, the area of the rectangle.

Edit: Found my mistake, stupid one actually. My way was perfect, I "forgot" to multiply by 0.5...and got opposite result.

Sorry guys :o
 
To find the area directly, you could use:

$$A=\int_0^4 8-\frac{x^2}{2}\,dx$$

which as you can see is equivalent to what you did. :D
 

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