A simple physics model for vehicles on different surfaces?

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This discussion focuses on creating a simple physics model for simulating vehicle movement on various surfaces, specifically for non-interactive scenarios like drag racing. Key input parameters include horsepower, weight, torque, and environmental factors such as surface type and weather conditions. The model aims to produce a distance-over-time curve that reflects vehicle performance under different conditions, emphasizing the importance of the coefficient of friction and torque in vehicle dynamics. The conversation suggests starting with basic functions and gradually increasing complexity to achieve desired accuracy.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of basic physics concepts related to motion and forces
  • Familiarity with vehicle dynamics, including horsepower, weight, and torque
  • Knowledge of friction coefficients for different surfaces
  • Basic programming skills for implementing the simulation model
NEXT STEPS
  • Research how to calculate the coefficient of friction for various surface types
  • Learn about vehicle dynamics and how mass and torque affect handling
  • Explore mathematical modeling techniques for simulating motion over time
  • Investigate existing physics engines or libraries that can assist in vehicle simulations
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Game developers, physics enthusiasts, and anyone interested in simulating vehicle performance across different terrains and conditions.

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Hi,
Just to let you know my level of knowledge/ability, I studied a degree that included some dynamics, but that was nearly 15 years ago, so I'm rusty. I'm a games programmer, and I tend to understand code (or things that can be translated into code) more easily than hardcore maths equations, but I'll take any help I can get.

So, I'm trying to figure out how to build a way to simulate different vehicles moving along different kinds of tracks. The simulation will be non-interactive, so it's not like a standard driving game where the player controls the acceleration, etc. So, to begin with, let's imagine two cars doing a straight drag race on tarmac.

What I want is to be able to input some basic stats about each car (I guess stuff like horsepower, weight, torque, etc. - but I'm open to suggestions about what will best fit the model). The output should be some kind of curve or function which describes the car's movement along the track: a car that accelerates quickly but has a limit on its top speed might lose against a car with a slower acceleration provided that the track is long enough to allow it to overtake, for example. What's the simplest way you can think of for generating this kind of output from a given set of inputs?

Ultimately I also want to factor in environmental stuff like the surface type, weather etc: Given two otherwise identical cars on a wet road surface, the one with the slick tyres will beat the one with normal weather tyres. Four wheel drive vehicles will do better than 2 wheel drive on a hilly dirt track. A powerful drag racer will beat almost anything on tarmac but will likely run into problems on dirt/sand.

For bonus points, consider tracks with corners. Again, I'm not looking for a completely realistic model, but perhaps something that takes into account that a vehicle with higher mass will presumably need to decelerate more to take sharp corners than a lighter vehicle.

Um, so this sounds like a lot - sorry! At this point I'm just looking for some pointers - suggestions as to suitable input parameters, and suitable ways to have those interact to produce a distance over time curve that will probably not be particularly physically accurate but will be a suitable "quick and dirty" way of showing how well a car with a given set of characteristics will perform on a given track. Any suggestions?
 
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The key issue is the coefficient of friction under different surface conditions.
 
Its a lot. I'll advice you to start with a model that has some basic functions then add more and more until it gets to your desired complexity. Say, you can start by defining the car's mass(M), force of the engine(F), frictional force(Fr), length of track, the rate at which air resistance increases with speed(ß)[in order to determine the maximum velocity ]. I'll try to work? on a function with these variables that would define the car's motion.
 
how know everything !
only thing i would like to suggest is carefully incorporate the torque factor, because sometimes having incorporated it excessively controlling car becomes very difficult , turning becomes very problematic as in GTA IV
 

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