A spherical iron ball covered with ice

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The problem involves a spherical iron ball with a uniform layer of ice melting at a specified rate. Participants are tasked with determining the rate at which the thickness of the ice decreases and the rate at which the outer surface area of the ice decreases.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the volume of the ice and the radius of the sphere, suggesting differentiation with respect to time. Some express confusion regarding the implications of the melting ice on the calculations.

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There are multiple interpretations of how to approach the problem, particularly concerning the differentiation of volume and surface area formulas. Some participants provide guidance on setting up the equations, while others seek clarification on specific steps.

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Participants note that the rate of melting applies only to the ice and not the iron ball itself, which influences the setup of the equations. There is also mention of specific values and units that may require careful consideration.

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hi everyone this is a related rates question no one in the class could solve it. I could not find how to find the equation that relate all the things in the question.the question is:

A spherical iron ball 8 in. in diameter is coated with a layer of ice of uniform thickness. If the ice melts at the rate of 10 in^3/min, answer the following questions.

(a) How fast is the thickness of the ice decreasing when the ice is 2 in. thick?

(b) How fast is the outer surface area of the ice decreasing?



anyone can help?
thank you
 
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a) The volume of a sphere with respect to the radius is V=(\frac{4\pi}{3})r^3. Solve for r then differentiate with respect to time.
b) The surface area of a sphere with respect to the radius is \alpha=4\pi r^2. Write the surface area in terms of the volume and again, differentiate with respect to time.

EDIT: I just re-read the problem and the fact that the ice is melting, not the iron-ball, changes the way you should consider the 2 in. thickness of the ball. The radius of the iron-ball (4 in.) should be added to 2 in. ice to find the rate.
 
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is the answer for this one 1/14.4 cm/min? ^^
 
a) You must realize that the rate of melting given is not for the iron ball + ice... It is only for the ice. Write a formula for V_i_c_e, given the total radius r_b_a_l_l_+_i_c_e is 4 + w; when w is the width (thickness) of the ice. Then differentiate with respect to time.
b) This is a bit more complicated. Again, start with the formula for surface area, \alpha=4\pi (4 + w)^2. Solve for w with respect to V, then differentiate with respect to time.

PS. Your answer is \pi times greater than the answer.
 
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hmmm. i don't seem to understand ... could you please elaborate a) ? i get the same answer
 
a)
V_i_c_e = V_e_n_t_i_r_e _b_a_l_l - V_i_r_o_n = \frac{4\pi}{3}(4+w)^3 - \frac{4\pi}{3}(4)^3 = \frac{4\pi}{3}((4+w)^3 - (4)^3)

Differentiate with respect to time:
\frac{dV_i_c_e}{dt} = \frac{4\pi}{3}(3(4+w)^2\frac{dw}{dt})

-10 = \frac{4\pi}{3}(3(4+2)^2\frac{dw}{dt})

\frac{dw}{dt} = -\frac{5}{72\pi} = -\frac{1}{45.2389342} = -0.0221048532\frac{m}{s}
 

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