About Governor speed droop settings

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the advantages and disadvantages of governor speed droop settings in generator systems. Participants explore the implications of both low and high droop settings, focusing on their effects on load sensitivity and system stability. The conversation includes technical reasoning and numerical examples related to droop settings, particularly in the context of a 50 Hz system.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a very low governor speed droop setting makes the load on the machine sensitive to small frequency changes on the bus.
  • Others argue that a very high governor speed droop setting could lead to overspeed conditions if the breaker trips, as the speed set point may be too high.
  • A participant provides a numerical example illustrating how load changes with different droop settings, indicating that a 4% droop equates to a 2 Hz difference, affecting load significantly.
  • There is a question raised about whether low droop settings can lead to instability in the generator system and the potential seriousness of such instability.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of low and high governor speed droop settings, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain on the topic. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the ideal droop setting or its effects.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on specific numerical examples and assumptions about system behavior, but the discussion does not clarify all underlying assumptions or potential limitations of the models presented.

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Hi all, :smile:

Can someone pls. elaborate on the following;

1) Advantage/disadvantage of very low governor speed droop setting and why...

2) Advantage/disadvantage of very high governor speed droop setting and why...

The ideal droop setting is normally recommended to be around 4%... Pls. comment.

Thanks & Kind regards,
Shahvir
 
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Someone pls. reply! :frown:
 
If you have a very low droop setting the load on the machine will be very sensitive to small frequency changes on the bus.
If you have a very high droop setting the speed set point can be such that if your breaker trips you drive into overspeed.
 
Jobrag said:
If you have a very low droop setting the load on the machine will be very sensitive to small frequency changes on the bus.

Thanks, but could you pls. elaborate a bit more on the above; i.e. load being sensitive to small frequency changes on the bus?

Regards,
Shahvir
 
When running in droop the load on the machine is proportional to the difference between the speed set point (set on the fuel controller) and the actual speed that the machine is running (bus frequency).
Lets put some numbers in
50 Hz system
100 MW machine
4% droop
4% droop equates to 2 Hz so for every 1Hz difference between set point and bus frequency the load will be 50 MW

Suppose you put the set point at 51 Hz the machine will load to 50 MW, but if the bus frequency now drops to 49.9 Hz the machine load will increase to 55 MW if it increases to 50.1 the load will decrease to 45 MW.

If you reduce the droop to 2% the effect of changes in the bus frequency will be doubled etc etc.
 
Dear Jobrag,

Thanks very much for reply. Can the Generator system become unstable as a result of low droop settings? how serious can it get?

Best Regards,
Shahvir
 

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