Absolute zero temperature is impossible to achieve?

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

Absolute zero temperature is physically impossible to achieve due to the requirements of energy removal and the limitations imposed by the third law of thermodynamics. Achieving absolute zero would necessitate the existence of a substance colder than absolute zero, which is unattainable. The discussion highlights that cooling methods, such as laser cooling and magnetic refrigeration, operate under constraints that prevent reaching absolute zero. The impossibility is further supported by the rigorous proof established in 2023 regarding the limitations of cooling methods.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of the third law of thermodynamics
  • Familiarity with laser cooling techniques
  • Knowledge of magnetic refrigeration principles
  • Basic concepts of thermodynamic equilibrium
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the third law of thermodynamics and its implications on temperature limits
  • Explore the principles and applications of laser cooling
  • Investigate magnetic refrigeration technologies and their efficiency
  • Study recent advancements in thermodynamic proofs and cooling methods
USEFUL FOR

Physicists, thermodynamic researchers, and students interested in the fundamental limits of temperature and cooling technologies.

Chad Jensen
Messages
11
Reaction score
1
Just a general musing. Could absolute zero ever be physically possible or is it like the speed of light but for an inverse reason? The speed of light take infinite energy to achieve. So therefore is impossible because the energy put into the system adds mass. This is not noticeable at slower speeds but I would imagine the speed vs mass converts more and more to mass and your speed increase becomes less and less the faster you go, thus preventing you from ever reaching the speed of light. I have learned in calculus that one of the definitions of Zero is 1/infinity. Could this mean that absolute zero is impossible because it takes an infinite amount of energy removal to reduce the molecular motion to zero? And the issue with energy removal is the greater the difference between ambient energy and the energy of a system is the harder it becomes to remove said system energy to the point it becomes infinitely hard to remove the system energy.
Thanks
 
Science news on Phys.org
The answer is no, but I don't remember the specifics --- this has been asked and answered MANY times here on PF so I suggest a forum search for the details.
 
Thank you for your answer. I did do a forum search and I worded my question poorly. I was aware of not being able to get to absolute zero. I was just wondering on the possible why. I will see if I can search a bit deeper and dig up the why.
 
The way to cool an object to temperature ##T## is to put it in contact with something colder than ##T##. (Putting it in contact with an object whose temperature is exactly ##T## won't do the trick because as heat flows from the warmer object to the colder object, the colder one warms up so we end up with the two objects in equilibrium at a temperature higher than ##T##).

So to cool an object to absolute zero you need something colder than absolute zero. And where are you going to find that?
 
Chad Jensen said:
I was under the impression they could use lasers to cool an object with no physical contact.
That depends if you consider "an atom absorbing and emitting photons" as physical contact... or magnetic fields manipulating atoms in
Magnetic refrigeration
So the only way you could hypothetically remove "all" contact from an atom is to surround it with atoms at absolute zero which don't exist.
 
Nugatory said:
So to cool an object to absolute zero you need something colder than absolute zero. And where are you going to find that?
This seems to imply that refrigerators aren't possible. You can get lower than the temperature of the environment. The third law of thermodynamics implies that you can only reduce the absolute temperature in a single cooling stage by a constant factor. This was already known for a lot of cooling methods, but a rigorous proof of this was only given this year. http://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14538
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
1K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
15K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
4K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
9K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 23 ·
Replies
23
Views
4K
  • · Replies 51 ·
2
Replies
51
Views
4K