Absorption and Emission Spectrum

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concepts of absorption and emission spectra, particularly focusing on the definitions and implications of these spectra in relation to substances in different states (gas vs. solution). Participants seek clarification on the definitions and explore the differences in spectral behavior based on the state of the substance.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant explains that the emission spectrum consists of electromagnetic radiation emitted at definite wavelengths when an element is excited.
  • Another participant describes the absorption spectrum as containing dark lines in a continuous spectrum, which correspond to wavelengths absorbed by the substance.
  • Some participants express confusion about the definition of a solution and its relevance to the absorption spectrum.
  • There is a suggestion that the absorption spectrum reflects the energy absorbed by atoms or particles at specific frequencies.
  • One participant mentions that the spectra for thermal radiation from solids are similar, while isolated atoms exhibit characteristic lines.
  • Another participant notes that the environment (gas vs. solution) may not significantly affect the absorption/emission spectrum for macroscopic particles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the definitions and implications of absorption and emission spectra. There is no consensus on the clarity of the definitions, and some participants seek further clarification while others provide differing perspectives on the relevance of solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the potential confusion surrounding the terms used in the definitions, particularly regarding the state of the substance (gas vs. solution) and its impact on the spectra. There are unresolved questions about the implications of these definitions and the nature of the spectra.

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When an element is excited by some method, it emits electromagnetic radiations of definite wavelengths. The arrangement of these wavelengths in order of increasing wavelength is called emission spectrum of the element. (as per my book)

But, the definition of absorption spectrum, I don't understand.It goes like this:

When a beam of continuous light is passed through a tube containing vapors or solution of the substance and the transmitted light is analysed with the help of a spectrometer , it is observed that the spectrum obtained contains a number of dark lines in otherwise continuous spectrum. These dark lines appear due to the absorption of radiations of corresponding wavelengths by the substance. The dark lines in the absorption spectrum of a substance appear at the same position as the bright lines in the emission spectrum of the substance.

What does the definition mean. Specially, explain the underlined sentences. Thanks in advance for help.
 
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Presumably you have googled as well as posting this question here. https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~jbattat/a35/cont_abs_em.html includes a good diagram to show the distinction between emission and absorption spectra for a gas. You can also get the same effect when light passes through a transparent solution. (The spectral details are different, of course but the principle is the same).

The light that hasn't been absorbed travels straight through but the absorbed light is re-radiated in all directions, producing a gap (dip) in the transmitted spectrum at those wavelengths.
 
The only underlined words I see are solutions of the substance, which would mean that the substance is dissolved in a liquid (typically water).
 
But I didn't see any point in just saying "it's the same". I couldn't actually see why the solution factor would make things different.
Let's wait for a response?
 
I just thought physics kiddy did not understand what was meant by a solution of the substance. But yes, at this point they can ask if they want further clarification.
 
Thank you sophi very much. The site was excellent and it helped me clear my doubts.
But I didn't get this line in the Black Body section:

Brick, iron or a dense gas will emit the same spectrum as long as they are at the same temperature. That spectrum will have a peak that lies at a particular wavelength, lambdamax.

Where did you get such a nice website ?
 
@PK. First site I saw on google. ;-)

The spectra are the same when it's thermal (black body) radiation from a solid. For isolated atoms the spectra have characteristic lines. Pauli exclusion causes lines to spread into bands for more condensed matter. For solutions, I think this would be true also, to some extent.
 
absorption spectrum gives you the account of the radiation absorbed. if the energy is absorbed in a frequency region then that region appears dark in the spectrum and that is energy absorbed by the atoms or the constituent particles of the substance
 
What does Heisingberg's Uncertainity Principle mean by saying delta x * delta v >=h/2pi ? x = position and v = velocity, right ? however their product doesn't mean anything.
 
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Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle is an underlying quantum mechanical expression that says if you measure the position and velocity of a quantum particle, there is always a degree of uncertainty in your measurements. This uncertainty is nothing to do with our experimental technologies, it is derived from within quantum mechanics and associated mathematics.

The h bar over 2 is a constant, so the product of uncertainties in position and velocity have to be greater than this constant. With the best ever technology, we would have the product equal to h bar over 2.
 
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Suspension in this context just means that the molecule in question is suspended in a liquid as opposed to a gas. The absorption/emission spectrum will be largely unaffected by the environment for a macroscopic particle.

Claude.

P.S. Heisenbergs uncertainty principle doesn't have much to do with your original question. Try not to convolute unrelated topics.
 

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