AC Mains Transmission Tower question

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The discussion revolves around the function of additional wires found on AC transmission towers, specifically the smaller wires located at the top of the towers. Participants explore their purpose, including protection against lightning strikes and potential use as fiber optic cables.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants identify the smaller wires as shield wires that protect the transmission lines from lightning strikes.
  • Others express uncertainty about the grounding of the towers and how the shield wires function in relation to the towers.
  • A later reply clarifies that the towers themselves are grounded and that the shield wires connect each tower, potentially improving grounding and shielding effectiveness.
  • One participant mentions that since the 1980s, these shield wires have also been used as fiber optic cables, combining protection with communication capabilities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the smaller wires serve a protective function, but there is uncertainty regarding the specifics of their operation and the grounding of the towers. Multiple views on the grounding and functionality of the wires remain present.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the grounding of towers and the dual purpose of the shield wires depend on specific conditions and may vary by installation. The discussion does not resolve these technical details.

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What are the extra two wires on the transmission towers.
Hi all. Many of you on the forum seem to be very knowledgeable on power transmission. I often notice transmission towers like this on. I know the three large wire groups are the three phases of the AC power, but the towers often have two smaller wires (red circle) on the top. Sometimes
they only have one. Does anyone know the function of these wires?
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They are called shield wires. They protect the line from lightning strikes.
 
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It is not clear to me how they work. Are the towers not grounded? Reference maybe?
 
He said they protect the lines, not the towers. The towers are giant lighting rods anyway and are isolated from the lines. The lines of course can't be grounded...
 
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Oh I missed the red circles. I thought there were lines lower down (they are on the background towers!). OK never mind. (But thanks!)
 
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phyzguy said:
Summary: What are the extra two wires on the transmission towers.

Hi all. Many of you on the forum seem to be very knowledgeable on power transmission. I often notice transmission towers like this on. I know the three large wire groups are the three phases of the AC power, but the towers often have two smaller wires (red circle) on the top. Sometimes
they only have one. Does anyone know the function of these wires?
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As others already said it's a ground wire that electrically connects every metal tower and serves as a "lightning rod" so that the bolt rather hits it first than any of the phases.

But since the 1980's it has also been used as a fiber optic cable. Most of these shield wires now are double purpose. The outer layer is metal strands that perform the shielding while inside there is a optical fiber cable for internet and communications.
It makes sense because fiber doesn't conduct so is immune from induced voltages and currents but it still passes light.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_ground_wire
 
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It is not clear to me how they work. Are the towers not grounded? Reference maybe?
Towers are grounded, at least the ones I have seen all have ground bars that connect to one or more of the tower legs and run into ground/soil, but the upper shield wire connects each tower to the next, thereby I think it makes for a better ground and shield because not all towers stand on equally conductive ground.
 

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