Acceleration of a frictionless block on a frictionless wedge

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The problem involves analyzing the acceleration of a block on a frictionless wedge, with the context focusing on the forces acting on the block and the wedge. The original poster attempts to apply Newton's second law to find the acceleration, considering the absence of friction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the mass of the objects and the acceleration in the x direction, questioning why mass would not affect the acceleration. There are attempts to clarify the equations used, particularly regarding the acceleration components and the implications of the wedge being frictionless and light.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the equations and concepts involved, suggesting substitutions and clarifying the definitions of axes in the context of the problem. Multiple interpretations of the setup and the axes are being explored, indicating a productive discussion without explicit consensus.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the orientation of the axes in the diagram, which may affect the interpretation of the acceleration components. Participants are also considering the implications of the wedge's mass and its effect on the block's motion.

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Homework Statement


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There is no friction between any surfaces mass is known. Find acceleration of the blocks.

Homework Equations


F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


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I'm almost certian
Amx=g sin θ
AMy=0
 
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Hmm... Why wouldn't the acceleration in the x direction be affected by the mass of the objects?
 
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VinnieD said:
Amx=g sin θ
AMy=0
Yes, these look correct.

Most of your work looks OK to me.

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The part x-ed out in red is incorrect, but it doesn't look like you used that part.

Look at your final equation circled in blue. Can you see a substitution that you can make for ##N_m## in this equation that would allow you to solve for the acceleration of the wedge, ##a_{Mx}##?

One of the key equations for this problem is the constraint ##a_{my} = -a_{Mx} \sin \theta## (boxed in green). But I don't see where you showed how you obtained this.
 
VinnieD said:
Amx=g sin θ
That would be true if the wedge were fixed. But imagine if the wedge were not only frictionless but extremely light. The block would be almost in free fall.
 
haruspex said:
That would be true if the wedge were fixed. But imagine if the wedge were not only frictionless but extremely light. The block would be almost in free fall.
For the block, the x direction is parallel to the incline. So, free fall acceleration would have an x-component of magnitude g sinθ.
 
TSny said:
For the block, the x direction is parallel to the incline. So, free fall acceleration would have an x-component of magnitude g sinθ.
I had not picked up that x was defined as parallel to the slope.
 
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haruspex said:
I had not picked up that x was defined as parallel to the slope.
Nor had I, especially since x is specifically drawn in his solution diagram as being the normal horizontal axis
 
The OP's diagram does show the axes for the block, but they don't stand out. (Waldo axes)
But the x-axis is drawn up the slope, so amx would be negative in this case.
 

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