Acceptance Angle in Optical fibre

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of the acceptance angle in optical fibers, specifically addressing the conditions for total internal reflection (TIR) and the interpretation of the critical angle. Participants explore the implications of these concepts in both theoretical and practical contexts.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the condition for TIR is sin(i)≥n2/n1, where i is the angle of incidence, and questions whether the critical angle should be included in the conditions for TIR.
  • Another participant suggests that the critical angle represents a boundary and should not be considered part of the states of reflection or refraction.
  • A question is raised about whether TIR is assumed to be greater than or equal to the critical angle.
  • One participant argues that engineering perspectives may not differentiate between closed and open intervals in this context, implying a more practical approach to the definitions.
  • A clarification is provided that TIR occurs at angles greater than the critical angle, with the critical angle serving as a boundary between reflected and refracted portions of light.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the critical angle and its role in TIR, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions of intervals in the context of TIR and the critical angle, as well as the implications of these definitions for practical applications in engineering.

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According to the derivation of acceptance angle the first step is,
The condition for Total Internal reflection(TIR) is sin(i)≥n2/n1,
where i is angle of incidence in the core,
n2= refractive index of the cladding and n1=refractive index of the core.
sin(i(c))=n2/n1, where i(c) is the critical angle.
For TIR to take place the angle HAS TO BE ONLY GREATER than critical angle.
But the condition above contradicts the statement.
which one is true>
 
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That's a very good point.

IMHO the critical angle is a boundary between two states and should not be included in either state.
Kind of like cutting a piece of paper along a line. Neither piece is part of the cut line.

The contradiction is present even in the text describing the formula and the formula itself here:
light entering the fiber will be guided if it falls within the acceptance cone of the fiber, that is if it makes an angle with the fiber axis that is less than the acceptance angle,

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So basically you assume here that TIR is greater than or equal to critical angle?
 
I think you're letting 'pure maths' get in the way of common sense Engineering here. Engineering doesn't tend to distinguish between what, I seem to remember, are referred to as 'closed intervals' and 'open intervals'.
 
ananth271194 said:
So basically you assume here that TIR is greater than or equal to critical angle?

No,I would state that TIR occurs at angles greater than the critical angle.
For beams incident at critical angle, since no beam can be perfectly parallel, the portion at greater than critical angle is totally reflected. The portion at less than the critical angle is partially refracted. The critical angle is the 0 width boundary between the 2 portions.
 

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