Adding Fractions: Simplifying ((k/2k+1)+(1/(2k)(2k+2))=((k+1)/(2k+2))

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The discussion revolves around the simplification of the expression \((k / (2k + 1)) + (1 / ((2k)(2k+2)))\) and its equivalence to \(((k+1) / (2k+2))\). Participants explore the interpretation of the fractions involved and seek methods to simplify the left side of the equation.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express uncertainty about how to simplify the left side of the equation and question the feasibility of finding a common denominator with the given variables.
  • There is a discussion about the interpretation of the fraction \((k / 2k + 1)\), with some suggesting it could mean \(\frac{k}{2k + 1}\) or \(\frac{k}{2k} + 1\), highlighting the ambiguity in notation.
  • One participant points out that a computer might interpret the expression differently, suggesting that it could be read as \((k / 2)k + 1\).
  • Another participant asserts that it is always possible to find a common denominator, even with complex variables, suggesting that the product of all involved denominators could be used as a last resort.
  • A later reply indicates that the original claim may not hold true in general, referencing an earlier post that presents a counterexample.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the fractions or the validity of the original equation. Multiple competing views remain regarding how to approach the simplification and the correctness of the statements made.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the clarity of notation and the assumptions made about the expressions. The discussion reflects different interpretations of mathematical expressions and the challenges in simplifying them.

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(k / 2k + 1) + (1 / (2k)(2k+2)) = ((k+1) / (2k+2))

I would like to simplify the left side to prove that these two statements are equal. I'm not sure how to do this. Surely I can't find a common denominator with such complex variables and such? What is a good approach?
 
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##\frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{8} = \frac{2}{4}## ? (##k = 1##)
 
PhysicsBoyMan said:
(k / 2k + 1) + (1 / (2k)(2k+2)) = ((k+1) / (2k+2))

I would like to simplify the left side to prove that these two statements are equal. I'm not sure how to do this. Surely I can't find a common denominator with such complex variables and such? What is a good approach?
A good first step would be to explain what (k / 2k + 1) is supposed to mean.

Is it supposed to denote ##\frac{k}{2k + 1}## or is it supposed to denote ##\frac{k}{2k} + 1## ? The latter is what it does denote according to the PEMDAS rules.
 
It is unclear how to interpret your fractions.
(k / 2k + 1) = k / (2k + 1)? Probably what you meant.
(k / 2k + 1) = (k / (2k)) + 1? More logical given the usual operator order (multiplication/division before addition)
(k / 2k + 1) = (k / 2)k + 1 = (k2/2) + 1? That's how a computer would interpret it.

Same thing for (1 / (2k)(2k+2)).
PhysicsBoyMan said:
Surely I can't find a common denominator with such complex variables and such?
You can always find a common denominator. Worst case: take the product of all involved denominators, that always works.
 
Sorry, its (k / (2k + 1)) + (1 / ((2k)(2k+2))
 
Then it is not true in general, see post #2.
 

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