Adiabatic Compression Temperatures

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The discussion centers on the temperature increase of a gas during adiabatic compression, exploring the relevant formulas and concepts. Participants seek to understand the relationship between volume, pressure, and temperature in this context, without it being a homework-related inquiry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks for the formula to calculate the temperature rise during gas compression, specifically in an adiabatic process.
  • Another participant provides a formula for temperature change in an adiabatic process: T2 = T1 (V1/V2)^{(y-1)}, noting that this assumes a constant value for y, which may not hold true under all conditions.
  • The same participant also mentions a formula for pressure change: P2 = P1 (V1/V2)^{y}, and explains the significance of the constant y, which varies based on the type of gas (monatomic vs diatomic).
  • A numerical example is provided to illustrate the temperature and pressure changes for both monatomic and diatomic gases during compression.
  • Another participant briefly states that y in the equation is the ratio of specific heats (Cp/Cv), implying a connection to the previous formulas without further elaboration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present various formulas and explanations regarding adiabatic processes, but there is no consensus on the exactness of the formulas or the implications of varying values of y. The discussion remains open with multiple viewpoints on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the formulas provided are approximations and that the value of y is not constant across different conditions, which may affect the accuracy of the calculations.

Natla88
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Hi,

When a gas is compressed, its temperature increases. But what is the formula to calculate this rise? Could you please explain the formula too. This isn't homework btw!

Thanks!
 
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Coefficient of thermal expansion (numerical values are given in handbooks of physics)...
\alpha=\frac{1}{V}\left(\frac{\partial V}{\partial T}\right)_P
reads also...
\Delta T=\frac{\Delta V}{\alpha V}
 
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Natla88 said:
Hi,

When a gas is compressed, its temperature increases. But what is the formula to calculate this rise? Could you please explain the formula too. This isn't homework btw!

Thanks!


For an adiabatic process (no heat energy exchanged with the surroundings) the temperature can be found from

T2 = T1 (V1/V2) ^{(y-1)}

[EDIT] Note that these formulas are not exact because y is not exactly constant as heat capacity changes with changes in volume and pressure, but it reasonable to assume constant y over small changes in the states.


and the pressure can be found from

P2 = P1 (V1/V2) ^y

where T1, P1 and V1 are the initial values and T2, P2 and V2 are the final values.

(y) is a constant that depends on the type of gas used and is related to the degrees of freedom that the molecules of gas have. For a diatomic gas the molecules can rotate and part of the energy added to the system is used to increase the rotation rate of the molecules. Temperature is proportional to the linear kinetic energy of the molecules so energy that is used to increase the rotation rate of the molecules does not contribute to the increase in temperature. For a monatomic gas y is about 5/3 while for a diatomic gas y is about 7/5.

Numerical example: If V1 = 100, P1=1 and T1=100 (in degrees kelvin) and V2 = 50 (compression) then T2=158 Kelvin and P2=3.17 for a monatomic gas while T2= 131 kelvin and P2 = 2.63 for a diatomic gas. Note that the increase in temperature and pressure is less for a diatomic gas than a monatomic gas during compression, when the same amount of energy in the form of work has been added to the systems.

For more info see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adiabatic_process

Hope that helps :)

[EDIT] Note that these equations are aproximations because y is not exactly constant as pressure and volume varies.
 
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kev has told u all there is nothing much to say except tht y in the equation is Cp/Cv
 

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