Advanced Calculus Proof-limit of a sequence.

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of the sequence {b_n}, defined as the average of consecutive terms from another sequence {a_n} that converges to a limit A. Participants are exploring whether {b_n} converges and, if so, what the limit is, while also considering the need for a proof or counterexample.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the sandwich theorem and the conditions under which it might be valid. There are attempts to use limit properties to show that {b_n} converges to A, with some participants questioning the necessity of a formal ε-δ proof. Others suggest starting with the definition of convergence to clarify the proof structure.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with various approaches being explored. Some participants have provided insights into the limit of {b_n} based on the limits of {a_n} and {a_(n+1)}. However, there is no explicit consensus on the proof method or the necessity of a formal approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the requirements of the homework problem, which asks for a proof of convergence or a counterexample, leading to discussions about the generality of their approaches and the definitions involved.

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Homework Statement


Suppose that the sequence {a_n} converges to A. Define the sequence {b_n} by:

b_n = (a_n +a_(n+1) )/2

Does the sequence {b_n} converge? If so, specify the limit and prove your conclusion. Otherwise, give an example when this is not true.


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The Attempt at a Solution



Me and some class mates tried to use the sandwich theorem, but are not sure if it applies here:

Suppose that {a_n}, {k_n}, and {c_n} are three sequences. NOTE: k_n = a_(n+1). Suppose there exists an element n from N, such that

a_n≤k_n≤c_n

Suppose that a_n and c_n converge to A, then, by the limit definition, there exists an n_2 such that |a_n-A|<ε

the same thing for c_n, there exists an n_3 such that |c_n-A|<ε

n* max {n_1, n_2, n_3}

A-ε≤a_(n )≤A+ε
A-ε≤c_(n )≤A+ε
then A-ε≤a_(n )≤k_n≤c_n≤A+ε so that means that K_n converges to A, but k_n is actually
a_(n+1), so then a_(n+1) converges to A.

Now, since b_n =( a_n +a_(n+1))/2

take the limit of b_n and by limit preperties you find that the limit of b_n is A.

I don't know if this is the right solution for this problem, we also thought about representing the a_n as a sequence that converges to A, such as a_n =A, but I am not sure since it seems we are asked to prove this generally.

Any hints would be highly appreciated,

thank you very much,

Emira!
 
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emira said:
[Suppose that the sequence {a_n} converges to A. Define the sequence {b_n} by:

b_n = (a_n +a_(n+1) )/2

Does the sequence {b_n} converge? If so, specify the limit and prove your conclusion. Otherwise, give an example when this is not true.

Hi emira! :smile:

Just start "given ε, ∃ n such that …" :smile:
 
Part of that, at least, is easy: If {bn} converges, then its limit is easy to get:
[tex]\lim{n\rightarrow\infty}\frac{a_n+ a_{n+1}}{2}= \frac{\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty} a_n}{2}+ \frac{\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty} a_{n+1}}{2}[/tex]
and those last two limits are given.

As for proving that it does converge, since we know {an} converges to A, given any [itex]\epsilon> 0[/itex], there exist N such that if n> N, [itex]|a_n- A|< \epsilon[/itex]. Of course, if n> N, so is n+1 so the same is true of an+1!
 
Since

[tex] \lim_{n \to \infty} a_n = A[/tex]

then it is also true that

[tex] \lim_{n \to \infty} a_{n=1} = A[/tex]

The proof that [tex]\{b_n\}[/tex] converges is simply an exercise in the algebra of limits - no need for an [tex]\epsilon, \delta[/tex] proof (unless the original question required such).
 

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