Air conditioner fan not starting

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a malfunctioning air conditioner fan that is not starting. Participants explore potential electrical issues, including control signals, wiring, and component failures. The scope includes technical troubleshooting and diagnostic reasoning.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the fan does not start, and voltage testing between the brown and black wires shows 0 V, indicating a lack of control signal from the indoor unit.
  • Another participant suggests that there may be a missing fuse on the brown line and recommends checking for it.
  • A different participant confirms the possibility of a relay controlling the fan and asks for verification of the wiring diagram and continuity of the brown wire.
  • Concerns are raised about the fan potentially being controlled based on refrigerant pressure, indicating that the issue could be complex.
  • One participant questions the method used to power the fan during testing and suggests checking for shorts or open circuits in the wiring.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various hypotheses regarding the cause of the issue, with no consensus reached on the specific problem or solution. Multiple competing views on the potential causes remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various components and wiring configurations, but there are limitations in verifying the conditions of the wiring and control signals. The discussion does not resolve the specific electrical issues or confirm the presence of any faults.

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I have a problem with my air conditioner fan not starting. As seen from the schematic below, when I test for voltage between the brown and black wires, I get 0 V (this is the problem). The indoor unit isn't sending the control signal to turn the fan on. The compressor powers on fine though. When I connect the brown and red wires together (since red is giving power fine), the circuit breaker trips, maybe too much inrush current since motor and compressor turn on together?

I then powered the fan separately and it works (fan or capacitor is not faulty)

Could there be a relay or something controlling the fan that's not giving power from brown cable?

Any ideas?

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TheRedDevil18 said:
I then powered the fan separately and it works (fan or capacitor is not faulty)
Just because they start you can't be sure jet.

There is no fuse on the brown line, but I'm pretty sure there should be one somewhere (just not in the outdoor unit). Try to find it first and check if it is still OK or not.
 
TheRedDevil18 said:
I have a problem with my air conditioner fan not starting. As seen from the schematic below, when I test for voltage between the brown and black wires, I get 0 V (this is the problem). The indoor unit isn't sending the control signal to turn the fan on...

Could there be a relay or something controlling the fan that's not giving power from brown cable?
Yes. Do you have a wiring diagram for the indoor unit's controller? Can you verify the signal is being sent to the brown wire at the unit? Can you verify the continuity of the brown wire?

This issue may be as simple as a bad control wire or it may be a lot more complicated. The fan may not always run, but might be controlled based on refrigerant pressure, and you may have a bad controller or sensor.
 
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TheRedDevil18 said:
I then powered the fan separately and it works (fan or capacitor is not faulty)
What did you use to power the fan in that test? 220 or 115 volts?

Have you checked that all three of its wires show at least a few megohms to ground its metal frame ?

Were its red wire internally shorted to frame
and your test setup hooked red to a grounded power conductor (neutral in USA) and black to "hot"
it'd explain your observations
and there'll be an open in the supply to brown wire - fuse or melted relay contact
 

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