B Algebra question -- Solving 2 simultaneous equations....

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The discussion centers on solving two simultaneous equations involving variables a, b, and c, specifically focusing on finding the ratio of c to a. Participants confirm that the equations can be manipulated to derive a solution, with one participant noting that they arrived at the expression a = 2(±√(c-1) + c), which seems inconsistent with the expected ratio of 5:2. Another contributor suggests that additional information may be missing from the original problem, as they found two valid solutions that fit the arithmetic and geometric sequences but yielded different ratios. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the complexity of the problem and the potential for missing variables in the original question. The need for clarity in problem statements is emphasized to avoid confusion in solving such equations.
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It is a bit of a long question about series, But what is important is this...

a+ 2c = 3b

(3b-2)^2 = 2a * (4c-2)

It is asking for the ratio c to a

It have tried a lot of ways. I always end up with this. (Note maybe I not noticing a mistake, Can just anyone confirm that this is solvable? )

a^2 - 4 a c + 4 = 8 c - 4 c^2
 
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Biker said:
It is a bit of a long question about series, But what is important is this...

a+ 2c = 3b

(3b-2)^2 = 2a * (4c-2)

It is asking for the ratio c to a

It have tried a lot of ways. I always end up with this. (Note maybe I not noticing a mistake, Can just anyone confirm that this is solvable? )

a^2 - 4 a c + 4 = 8 c - 4 c^2

You can solve this for a! I got the same expression as you. You can write it as a^2 - 4ac + 4c^2 = 8c - 4.
Now look at the a^2 - 4ac + 4c^2. You should notice something. Solve for a then and you can express c/a
 
Math_QED said:
You can solve this for a! I got the same expression as you. You can write it as a^2 - 4ac + 4c^2 = 8c - 4.
Now look at the a^2 - 4ac + 4c^2. You should notice something. Solve for a then and you can express c/a
a = 2 ( +or- sqrt( c-1) + c)

Which doesn't make sense in my view, Because the answer is 5 : 2 ( c to a). Did you get the value for c:a as a number or with variables?

Here is the original question:
2a, 3b , 4c is a Arithmetic progression
2a, 3b-2, 4c-2 is a geometric sequence

Find c : a
 
Biker said:
a = 2 ( +or- sqrt( c-1) + c)

Which doesn't make sense in my view, Because the answer is 5 : 2 ( c to a). Did you get the value for c:a as a number or with variables?

Here is the original question:
2a, 3b , 4c is a Arithmetic progression
2a, 3b-2, 4c-2 is a geometric sequence

Find c : a

It might have been useful to include the original question. I don't have time right now. I will look at it tomorrow.
 
This must involve some fancy maneuvers, if it is possible at all. I was able to reduce the single equation we get after eliminating ##b## to the forms:

##(a-2c)^2 = 8c-4##

or

##(2c-2)^2 = 4ac-a^2##

I don't see any way to get ##\frac{c}{a}## out of either of these.
 
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Here is the original question:
2a, 3b , 4c is a Arithmetic progression
2a, 3b-2, 4c-2 is a geometric sequence

Find c : a
I wonder if you have left some information out of the problem statement because I get two solutions by brute force search:

## [a,b,c] = [1/4,1/2,5/8] ##
## [a,b,c] = [1,2,5/2] ##

Both of these give ##c/a = 5/2## and both sets fit the given progressions. Additionally, these sets fit the progressions but yields the wrong ##c/a## ratio:

## [a,b,c] = [4,2,1] ##
## [a,b,c] = [16,14,13] ##

These observations lead me to think there is more to the story than was given here. Is there something missing?
 
mfig said:
I wonder if you have left some information out of the problem statement because I get two solutions by brute force search:

## [a,b,c] = [1/4,1/2,5/8] ##
## [a,b,c] = [1,2,5/2] ##

Both of these give ##c/a = 5/2## and both sets fit the given progressions. Additionally, these sets fit the progressions but yields the wrong ##c/a## ratio:

## [a,b,c] = [4,2,1] ##
## [a,b,c] = [16,14,13] ##

These observations lead me to think there is more to the story than was given here. Is there something missing?

Apparently, When the teacher gave me the question the he missed some variables in the geometric sequences. Sorry for inconvenience
 
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