Alternative Derivation of sin integral

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The discussion revolves around evaluating integrals related to Fourier series, specifically the integral of the sine function, ∫sin(nπx/L)dx from 0 to L, and its relation to the expression (L/nπ)[1-(-1)^n]. Participants are seeking clarification on the derivation of this result and exploring similar integrals such as ∫sin^2(nπx/L)dx and ∫xsin(nπx/L)dx.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss traditional evaluation methods for the integral and question how the cosine term relates to the expression involving (-1)^n. There is an exploration of the implications of n being even or odd on the evaluation of the integral.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights and clarifications regarding the relationship between the cosine function and the expression involving (-1)^n. The discussion appears to be productive, with participants actively engaging in reasoning and questioning assumptions.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of homework rules, seeking guidance without direct solutions. The need for understanding the technique behind these integrals is emphasized, indicating a focus on learning rather than simply obtaining answers.

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Homework Statement


Hi guys; I'm just dealing with Fourier series and they evaluate integrals such as ∫sin(nπx/L)dx from 0 to L as (L/nπ)[1-(-1)^n]. Can someone please tell me how to get to this conclusion or point me in the direction of a resource that will show me? Additionally I need to solve similar integrals like ∫sin^2(nπx/L)dx and ∫xsin(nπx/L) so I really need to know the technique. Thanks in advance.

Homework Equations


∫sin(nπx/L)dx from 0 to L = (L/nπ)[1-(-1)^n]

The Attempt at a Solution


I would traditionally evaluate ∫sin(nπx/L)dx from 0 to L as [L-Lcos(nπ)]/nπ
 
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saybrook1 said:

Homework Statement


Hi guys; I'm just dealing with Fourier series and they evaluate integrals such as ∫sin(nπx/L)dx from 0 to L as (L/nπ)[1-(-1)^n]. Can someone please tell me how to get to this conclusion or point me in the direction of a resource that will show me? Additionally I need to solve similar integrals like ∫sin^2(nπx/L)dx and ∫xsin(nπx/L) so I really need to know the technique. Thanks in advance.

Homework Equations


∫sin(nπx/L)dx from 0 to L = (L/nπ)[1-(-1)^n]

The Attempt at a Solution


I would traditionally evaluate ∫sin(nπx/L)dx from 0 to L as [L-Lcos(nπ)]/nπ

So you have ##\frac{L}{n\pi}(1-\cos(n\pi))##. How does ##\cos(n\pi)## compare with ##(-1)^n##?
 
saybrook1 said:

Homework Statement


Hi guys; I'm just dealing with Fourier series and they evaluate integrals such as ∫sin(nπx/L)dx from 0 to L as (L/nπ)[1-(-1)^n]. Can someone please tell me how to get to this conclusion or point me in the direction of a resource that will show me? Additionally I need to solve similar integrals like ∫sin^2(nπx/L)dx and ∫xsin(nπx/L) so I really need to know the technique. Thanks in advance.

Homework Equations


∫sin(nπx/L)dx from 0 to L = (L/nπ)[1-(-1)^n]

The Attempt at a Solution


I would traditionally evaluate ∫sin(nπx/L)dx from 0 to L as [L-Lcos(nπ)]/nπ
If n is even, then cos(nπ) = 1.

If n is odd, then cos(nπ) = -1.
 
I see now! Thank you LCKurtz and SammyS, I appreciate the help.
 

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