Alternative material to the springs used in furniture

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The discussion revolves around finding an alternative material to the s-spring used in furniture manufacturing. Participants explore various material options that can match or exceed the performance characteristics of spring steel while being cost-effective and durable. The conversation includes considerations of material properties, longevity, and production feasibility.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests synthetic strap materials, like seat belt webbing, which can be engineered for various spring constants.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of functionality and strength over the specific properties of steel, questioning the relevance of the yield and tensile strength of 1070 steel.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential drawbacks of using elastic woven fabrics, particularly regarding their labor costs and performance if not properly stretched.
  • Flexible wood constructs are proposed as a possible alternative, with a focus on local materials like bamboo, hemp, or flax to reduce transport costs.
  • Questions are posed regarding additional restrictions, design compatibility, material types, sustainability, labor resources, development timeframe, and cost limits to narrow down the options.

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Participants express a variety of viewpoints on potential materials and their properties, with no consensus reached on a specific alternative. The discussion remains open-ended with multiple competing ideas and considerations.

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Participants highlight the need for the alternative material to last at least 15 years and to be guaranteed for 10 years, but there are uncertainties regarding the feasibility of various proposed materials and their performance characteristics.

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I am looking for a cheaper, mass-produced material as an alternative to s-spring used in furniture.
Hello guys,
I started as a R&D engineer in a furniture factory. The factory asked me to find an alternative material to the s-spring and turn it into a project. This material can also be produced and should be cheaper than spring steel. The S-spring is made of 1070 and 1090 spring steels. In order for the material to be used instead of a spring, it must have sufficient strength and sufficient elasticity. The yield strength of 1070 steel is between 400 and 540 Mpa. Its tensile strength is between 620 and 700 Mpa and elongation at break is 10%. If you have alternative material suggestions for this steel, please could you share it?
Thank you.
Kind you regards.
 
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Welcome to PF.

How long is your product expected to last ?
How long do you warrant your product ?

A synthetic strap like seat belt webbing is the obvious choice. Almost any spring constant can be engineered by the choice of warp and weft material in the webbing.
 
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Baluncore said:
Welcome to PF.

How long is your product expected to last ?
How long do you warrant your product ?

A synthetic strap like seat belt webbing is the obvious choice. Almost any spring constant can be engineered by the choice of warp and weft material in the webbing.
First of all, thank you very much for your response.
- It should be a material that can last up to at least 15 years.
- It should be a product that can be guaranteed for 10 years.

First of all, what you said is very logical, varieties with elastic upholstery fabrics are used in furniture today. There are some disadvantages of using elastic woven columns as suspension. If the columns are not stretched very well, easy collapses occur and it is a product with high labor costs.
 
mttrm0 said:
The yield strength of 1070 steel is between 400 and 540 Mpa. Its tensile strength is between 620 and 700 Mpa and elongation at break is 10%.
Unless you wish to use the original 's-spring' shape, these parameters does not mean much. You need to aim for the functionality and strength displayed by the spring, instead of the properties of steel.

mttrm0 said:
- It should be a material that can last up to at least 15 years.
- It should be a product that can be guaranteed for 10 years.
Feels difficult. Cheap plastics (cheaper than steel) are likely out of the picture, both as solids and pressurized shapes.

Maybe some flexible wood constructs?
 
Rive said:
Maybe some flexible wood constructs?
It would seem sensible to use a local product, to reduce transport costs and encourage the local economy.
What is the availability of materials like bamboo, hemp or flax?
 
Well, there's this option:

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https://yogibo.com/collections/bean-bag-chairs
 
From where I sit (pun fully intended :wink:), you've got a bunch of options, which doesn't help much in your effort. So, let's answer some questions to help narrow down the scope of the project....

  • What restrictions do you have other than life limits?
  • Does it have to fit into existing designs, or is it only for new designs?
  • What material types can you use?
  • Is sustainability a factor/priority?
  • Does the product need to be made with local labor/resources?
  • What's the development timeframe?
  • Is there a cost limit?
 

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