Alternative path to taking roots of both sides of equation

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The discussion centers on the method of taking square roots of both sides of an equation or inequality by multiplying each side by numbers with negative rational exponents. Several examples illustrate the process, including attempts to prove that if a > b, then √a > √b, which is complicated by the need to consider the properties of square roots and the monotonicity of the function. Participants highlight that the function f(x) = √x is strictly increasing for x > 0, reinforcing that the implication holds true. There is also a recognition of potential pitfalls when manipulating equations, such as losing solutions when dividing by variables. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the careful application of mathematical principles in inequalities and functions.
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The full question is: "How can we take square root of both sides of an inequality or equation just by multiplying each side by numbers with negative rational exponents". I will include several examples to explain how I think about it.
1)a=b, a^(-0.5)*a=b*a^(-0.5) (but a^(-0.5)=b^(-0.5)) then a^(-0.5)*a=b*b^(-0.5) which is sqrt(a)=sqrt(b)

2)a>0 b>0
a>b
a^(-0.5)*a>b*a^(-0.5) b^(-0.5)*a>b^0.5 ?
a^(0.5)=b*a^(-0.5)? (Trying to prove that sqrt(a)>sqrt(b))

3)x^2=2.5
x^(-1)*x^2=2.5*2.5^(-0.5) (2.5^(-0.5)=x^(-1))
x=sqrt(2.5)
Which is incorrect. Because the true solution is sqrt(x^2)=sqrt(2.5) then |x|=sqrt(2.5) and x1=+sqrt(2.5), x2=-sqrt(2.5)

(The question has similarities with this one https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...-equation-and-inequality.823960/#post-5174108)
 
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Is what I am doing possible?
 
Hello Arman,

Would it help you to draw some graphs ? The graph for the function ##f(x) = \sqrt x## exists only in the ##f \ge 0 \ {\rm and} \ x \ge 0 ## quadrant. But the graph of ##g(x) = x^2 ## exists in the upper half of the x, g plane. This last one should help you find out why your first step in 3. is a glitch ...
 
BvU said:
Hello Arman,

Would it help you to draw some graphs ? The graph for the function ##f(x) = \sqrt x## exists only in the ##f \ge 0 \ {\rm and} \ x \ge 0 ## quadrant. But the graph of ##g(x) = x^2 ## exists in the upper half of the x, g plane. This last one should help you find out why your first step in 3. is a glitch ...

Hi,
I think that is because I lost one solution when dividing by x
 
I still don't understand 2) it should be true that sqrt(a)>sqrt(b) because it is monotonically increasing
 
I think that is because I lost one solution when dividing by x
exactly.

it should be true that sqrt(a)>sqrt(b) because it is monotonically increasing
I don't think you can prove ##a > b \Rightarrow \sqrt a > \sqrt b\ (a>b>0)## this way: it's a bit circular.

With a bit of liberty, I would do $$ \Bigl ( a> 0 \Rightarrow \sqrt a > 0 \ \& \ b> 0 \Rightarrow \sqrt b > 0 \Bigr ) \Rightarrow \ \sqrt a + \sqrt b > 0 $$ And then use this in
$$ \Biggl ( a - b > 0 \ \& \ a - b = \left ( \sqrt {\mathstrut a} - \sqrt {\mathstrut b} \right ) \left ( \sqrt {\mathstrut a} + \sqrt {\mathstrut b} \right ) \Biggr )
\ \ \Rightarrow \ \ \sqrt {\mathstrut a} - \sqrt {\mathstrut b} > 0 $$
 
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For ##a>b>0,## ##\sqrt{a}>\sqrt{b}## is a trivial implication for ##y=\sqrt{x}## is a strictly increasing function.
 
tommyxu3 said:
For ##a>b>0,## ##\sqrt{a}>\sqrt{b}## is a trivial implication for ##y=\sqrt{x}## is a strictly increasing function.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think your answer is a bit off topic. Anyway thanks for your reply!
 
It may be another way to prove ##a>b>0\Rightarrow \sqrt{a}>\sqrt{b}## using the increase of ##y=\sqrt{x}.##
Let ##f(x)=\sqrt{x},## then ##f(0)=0.## Besides, ##f'(x)=\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x}},## which is always positive when ##x> 0.## As a result, ##f(x)## is a strictly increasing function, so ##a>b>0\Rightarrow \sqrt{a}>\sqrt{b}## is correct.
 
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