Am i classed as an international student?

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The discussion revolves around the classification of a British citizen with permanent residency in Australia as an international student for tuition purposes when applying to universities in the UK or US. Participants explore the implications of residency requirements and citizenship status on tuition fees.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether their status as a British citizen but long-term resident in Australia affects their classification as an international student.
  • Another suggests contacting admissions departments directly for clarification, indicating that official sources may provide the most accurate information.
  • A participant shares that they received information stating that to be considered a home student, one must have lived in the EEA for the last three years, raising questions about the applicability of this rule to citizens.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential loss of British citizenship due to long-term residency in Australia, with one participant asserting that this could affect eligibility for home fees.
  • Another participant mentions their similar situation, indicating that residency duration is critical for determining fee status.
  • One participant asserts that living outside the UK for an extended period likely classifies the individual as an international student, based on their research.
  • A later reply confirms the previous assertion about the necessity of residing in the UK for three years prior to starting university to qualify for home fees.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of citizenship and residency on tuition classification, with no consensus reached on the specific requirements or outcomes for the original poster's situation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note various assumptions regarding citizenship status, residency duration, and the definitions of home versus international student classifications, which remain unresolved.

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Am i classed as an international student??

Hi all,

I have recently been thinking about studying abroad (either the UK or US) for undergraduate studies. I am a British citizen but hold permanent residency in Australia and have lived over here for the last 9 years.

While researching this i have come across many websites which state that permanent reidents (of the UK) must have lived in the UK for 3 years prior to beginning study. Would this also applyto me as i have not lived in the UK for 9 years, although i am a citizen?

Maybe a Teacher who knows the application process may be able to help, or anyone with experience in the matter.

Thanks a lot,

-Spoon
 
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I can't really give you an answer; however, this might be one of those questions where the only solution is to call up/send an email/formal letter to the admissions department of the colleges in the UK that you are looking at, they should know. And if they don't they might have a good idea of who to ask for an answer.
 
i emailed the admissions office of one of the universities and they simply referred me to their website. I had already searched the links sent to me and none of the information applies to a student in my situation.
 
in another email i was given this information:

"Generally speaking, In order to be considered as a home student for tuition fees purposes, you need to be either an EU member or have indefinite leave to enter or remain in the U.K. In addition, you need to have lived in the EEA for the last three years, not solely for educational purposes."

Is this information applicable to someone holding a citizenship?
 
As far as I know, living in Australia for a certain period (most likely 5 years or more) would void your British citizenship, as you would be classified as a permanent Australian resident by now.

Further more, seeing as you would not be an EU member, nor would you have lived in the EEA for the last three years, you would not be applicable for the tuition fees (be it support or other).

I may be wrong (and probably am), but this is something you must clear up by first finding out your definite present and future status (ie: if you still hold permanent citizenship there or what you would need to do to fix this) and then emailing and talking to the prospective institutions.

I hope this helps.
 
As far as I know, unless you have lived in the UK for at least the 3 years JUST BEFORE you are about to start uni, then you are counted as international student for the tuition fees at least. See I have a similar problem. I have lived in the UK for 6 years now, but I hold a french passport. I'm currently trying to get hold of someone who can tell me what I count as, If i find any info for somebody in your case i'll try to post it here.
 
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Would this also apply to me as i have not lived in the UK for 9 years, although i am a citizen?

How old were you when you left england?
 
You're classed as an international student. I've looked into this as well in the past. I hold dual UK/Australian citizenship and was told that I needed to have been living in the UK for the 3 years prior in order to classify for "home fees".
 
Yes Quark80 is exactly correct, since posting lat i have done some more research into the matter and found out the same thing :(

thanks for the input though everyone.

-Spoon
 
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sorry spoon :( that's not good news when it comes down to the fees, it really sucks.
 

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